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A national memorial will be erected in Ireland for tens of thousands of children who were abused over decades in church-run institutions. So it was claimed to-day .Children’s Minister Barry Andrews said a national day of remembrance for survivors and those who died at the hands of sexual, emotional and physical torture is also being considered.

Mr Andrews insisted the Cabinet has rubber-stamped the 25 million euro (£21.5 million) plan to deal with what he branded a dark passage of Irish history.

Dark is not the word I would use here it is shameful, and what about naming the Minsters who were responsible for allowing these crimes to continue for years

Why are these people not brought before the courts of the land?

They are still enjoying massive pensions when the victims are subject to levies and dole cuts

It’s not enough to say we will do something

Action speaks louder than words, we’ve had enough of false promises!

Message from Joan Burton TD.


Just to let you know, that the Labour Party Private Members Bill in respect of redress has now been entered by the Labour Party as a Private Members Bill and has been accepted as such by Government. Obviously Government has not allocated any time to it.

However, we have decided to allocate next weeks, Tuesday and Wednesday 7 to 8.30 each evening, of our last Private Members Time, our last Private Members Time before the summer recess, to debating our redress Bill.

In that context I would be grateful if you would let people you know, with an interest in the issue, know and also if they wish to come and hear some or all of the debate they will be very welcome.

They can either arrange to come and view the debate through my office or any other Labour Party TD or through Cathy Flanagan who will arrange for them to be admitted to the public gallery.

I hope that this will raise the profile of the various issues which the Bill seeks to redress.

I attach a summary of the Bill for your information.

Best regards

Joan Burton TD.

Deputy Leader of the Labour Party.

Sister Stanislaus Kennedy

Taken from www.alliancesupport.org

Sister Stanislaus Kennedy has apologised unreservedly to survivors of child abuse in Catholic-run institutions.

Sr Stan said the Sisters of Charity were sad, sorry and ashamed that children suffered physical, emotional and sexual abuse while under their care.

She also said that the order must now live up to its financial responsibilities.

 Sr Stan is a prominent campaigner for homeless people.

The order is holding a conference on social justice in Dublin today.

The Ryan report into institutional child abuse the economic downturn will be discussed at the conference.

Sr Miriam Hennessey of the Sisters of Charity told the conference that the findings of the report were ‘overwhelming and disturbing’ for all her nuns.

On behalf of the congregation, she apologised again to all past pupils for what took place in the institutions under the congregation’s care.

President Mary McAleese has described the institutional abuse of children as ‘a milestone of biblical proportions in Irish history’.

Addressing a conference organised, she said the abuse of some of the children in the nuns’ care was a sad chapter in their history, which calls for resilience, determination, humility and focus in the journey of amending and healing that lies ahead.

Comment from Machholz

While this apology is very welcome the fact is that the survivors of this injustice are

Still having to fight to get justice

They should not have to beg for help. A well thought out plan of action, that will meet the current needs of the survivors is desperately needed now!

The various groups that have sprung up all over the country are at best well meaning individuals but they do not have the necessary skills to meet with the challenges that have yet to be faced up to in the future

We are dealing, it must be remembered with well established organisations that have enormous resources, and can protect themselves very well indeed

we need to be equally competent with our dealings with these organisations if we are going to succeed in bringing this very sad chapter of Irish history to a close.

reply from MaryA.White

MaryA.White@oireachtas.ie to me


Dear Thomas,

Many thanks for your email. The debate was a very important debate for Dáil Eireann and it was good to see so many deputies took part in the debate.

You are right that it is essential that the State continues to support and encourage victims of abuse in whatever way it can for the remainder of the victims’ lives, and also that the recommendations of the Ryan Report are implemented in full and as soon as possible. I called on the Government to declare a national day of remembrance for all victims of abuse and I hope this is taken up by it in due course.

Yours sincerely,

Mary White

Mary White T.D.

Green Party Deputy Leader


Leinster House

Kildare Street

Dublin 2

Ryan Report:Eamon Gilmore replies

eamon.gilmore@oireachtas.ie to me

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I would like to thank you for your message regarding the Ryan Report to Inquire into Child Abuse. I have received many messages from many people both at home and abroad telling of their history and giving their opinion on this shameful treatment of Irish children in the care and responsibility of the religious orders.

Your concerns and your opinions have very much helped us in addressing this difficult issue and in drawing up our own proposed Institutional Child Abuse Bill 2009 (a copy of which follows) . The Labour Party Bill attempts to acknowledge the failure of the State and of the religious congregations to protect children from abuse and that crimes were committed against such children in state care. It also attempts to cover a number of the points which have been raised with me such as the age definition of the child with regard to the legislation and the definition of institution, timeframes with regard to applications, privacy and other issues. It also makes related proposals regarding the financial affairs of the religious congregations.

The Labour Party will be pressing to have this legislation considered by the Dail at the earliest possible opportunity. Thank you again for communicating with me and if there is anything further which you feel might be of help don’t hesitate to contact me.

Eamon Gilmore TD

Labour Party Leader

Alliance Victim Support



On my recent attendance of the march to the Dail with fellow victims of Institutional abuse

I came across this victim support group

Check them out   at  www.alliancesupport.org

Tom Hayes is the contact name


Re:The Institutional Child Abuse Bill

Statement by Ruairi Quinn TD

Spokesperson on Education and Science

The Institutional Child Abuse Bill we are launching today is part, but only a part, of an attempt to acknowledge the failure of the State and of religious congregations to protect children from abuse, the pain and suffering they endured and that the Ryan Report vindicates their claims of abusive crimes committed against them by members of religious congregations and others while they were ostensibly in State care or under State supervision.

It goes without saying that the Bill is not of itself a full or satisfactory response. It should also be acknowledged that nothing we can do would undo the damage done to so many children in institutions or adequately compensate them for the physical, sexual and emotional abuse, neglect and wanton cruelty recorded by the Ryan Report in 216 schools and institutions.

However, in the Bill we are trying to deal with a number of specific issues of serious concern to the survivors of abuse that have been raised with Labour Party TDs by individual constituents or publicly by representative groups.

The publication of the Ryan Report shocked Irish society to its core and created a new understanding understand that the abuses carried out in these institutions have left a enduring legacy of pain and suffering. There is now a groundswell of public goodwill towards those who suffered abuse and a desire to see their outstanding grievances addressed.

The proposals in the Bill are set out in easily understandable form in the ‘Principal Features’ document included in your press pack, but I would like to refer to a few of them.

One of the principal complaints we have received is that some people for very legitimate reasons missed out on the deadline for applications to the Redress Board. This issue has particularly been raised with us by groups in Britain who represent people who simply did not know about the existence of the Redress Board or who were simply too ill or traumatised to be able to apply. Others were excluded because they were abused in an institution which was not listed in the Schedule to the Redress Act. Others lost out because, although they were underage under the law as it stood at the time they were in institutions, they would not be considered to be underage in modern law.

Our Bill seeks to correct all these defects. It also deals with concerns of abuse survivors that, in some way, they have a criminal record by virtue of having been committed to one of these Institutions. The Bill proposes that those persons must be treated for all purposes in law as persons who have not committed or been charged with or prosecuted for or convicted of or sentenced for any offence. Their records will, in other words, be wiped clean.

The Bill proposes the deletion of section 28 (6) of the Redress Act which prohibits an applicant to the Board from publishing any information concerning their application to or their award by the Redress Board, if it refers to any other person or institution by name or could reasonably lead to the identification of another person or an institution. This effectively prohibited applicants from recounting the stories of their childhood.

There have also been reports that both the Redress Board and the Child Abuse Commission may be considering the destruction of documents they hold relating to the testimony or witnesses or other papers. To destroy these documents would add insult to injury for those who suffered abuse.

The Bill insists therefore that, when it comes to making a order for the dissolution of the Board or the Commission, the Minister must include in the order his or her proposals for the maintenance of these records and to provide access to them “as a consistent reminder of the damage done to children whose upbringing, care and welfare was consigned to the State”.

This is a serious effort by the Labour Party to address matters of concern that have been raised with us. We don’t claim any monopoly on wisdom in this area and we would be happy to hear suggestions as to how the Bill might be improved or strengthened. Of course as an opposition party we have only very limited Private Members Time. We would be very happy for the government to take over the Bill and to have in enacted in government time. This would be the speediest and most effective way to proceed.

This statement is very welcome but I come back to the question of a way forward now for the victims of these Institutions

See my letter to Deputy Joe Costello



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