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The beleaguered Green Party

posted on Sunday 27.03.2011

On Saturday the 26th Around 300 members of the beleaguered Green Party  met to discuss its future.

The gathering in Dublin was the first such event since the party’s disastrous showing in the General Election, when the former coalition government partner lost all six TDs.

It also came in the wake of party leader John Gormley’s announcement that he would be standing down.

The meeting, called Re-Gather and Refocus, was organised by grassroots members with the support of the leadership.

During the event, members put forward their ideas on how to revive the party’s flagging fortunes.

But the issue of who will succeed Mr Gormley was apparently not on the table.


I am amazed that they would be so calm with the leadership the party is ruined and they have destroyed any chance of a return to government  in my lifetime .Gormely  can afford to just wander off into the sunset with his massive pension and leave the country in the mess it is in .

The party deserves to be wound up and the leadership deserve to be put in jail.

As for the remaining membership they should emigrate they will not be missed!

The Greens:They are a disgrace and no loss to the Irish Nation

Former minister for the environment John Gormley is to step down as Green Party leader.

Mr Gormley, who lost his Dáil seat in the general election, told party members in an email that he would not be seeking re-election.

In an email to party members, Mr Gormley described the party’s performance in the election, which saw it lose all six of its Dail seats, as a “temporary demise”.

The party will hold a meeting of its national executive council at the end of this month, before its annual general meeting in May. It is hoping to initiate a strategy for the next local elections in three years’ time.

Under party rules, a leadership contest must be held within six months of an election.

Mr Gormley won a ballot of members to become leader in July 2007, taking over from Trevor Sargent, who resigned when the party entered coalition with Fianna Fáil.

Senator Dan Boyle, party chairman, would not be drawn today on whether he would contest the leadership. But he was confident the party could rebuild. “It’s not a unique experience,” he said. “The German Greens, the Belgian Greens and the Czech Greens have all had similar experiences. It’s something of a rite of passage almost for the Green Party in terms of their first experience of parliament, their first experience of government.”

Senator Niall Ó Brolcháin said Mr Gormley had been considering his future since the election and felt it was time to go. “The election performances of the party haven’t been exactly very positive, the local election and the recent national election,” he said. “He had decided himself that it is time for him to go. I think there will be a lot of respect for that decision. Obviously there was a bit of a punishing time in Government.”


These gangsters should be in Jail

They have destroyed the green party and have shown themselves to be just as corrupt and attracted to power and perks .Goemely is sitting pretty with his big pension and why wouldn’t he now set off into the sunset while the rest of the country sinks under a mountain of debt that he helped to shove on to the shoulders of the taxpayers of this country

I say good riddance to the lot of them .they should not be allowed to benefit from the nations misfortune they helped bring about !

They are a disgrace and no loss to the Irish Nation

New comment to your your post “The Greens:They are a disgrace and no loss to the Irish Nation”
Author : Diarmaid O Seigefriede E-mail : dsugdub@yahoo.com

If you dont know the nuts and bolts you dont get it
The Greens might have been in the distant past a grass root enviormental movement. The Communists changed from red to green to use enviormental movements as a method of controling peoples.
Enter Gormless and his type sponsored by Rockerfellers and Rothchild Banks to hijack Green movements make communt governments in the  EU and spin the lies about CO2 from the club of Romes decision to find a type of pollution, that can be hijacked to control sociecty and unltimatly make all the EU a communist run empire.
Naturally Gormless doesnt care he is a puppet to his masters in the Tri lateral globalists  who we  filmed in Ireland at the Tri Lateral meeting in Four season Hotel  Ballsbridge Dublin . They were there engineering the take down of Eire and all Europe
Gormless is a traitor to the nation along with FF Mehall Martin . The then minister for forgien affairs and the then Atorney general    Paul Gallagher (Barcellona Bilderberg attendee )aided and abieted the escape from legal justice from a european  war crimes arrest warrant for the Henry Kissinger who was in Ireland on that occasion may 8th 2010( Film evidence at youtube/user/dcbourbonireland)
If you think FG blue shirts are any better forget it they are just as bad puppets and got the head globalist of the European Tri lateral Peter Sutherland and linked to globalist Bildergberg movement into high positions in Ireland which launched him into the EU empire
The real power structure in Ireland for many year up to now is the Head of state the Toichioch gets his instructions from the Governer general  who the Bilderbergs have chosen well in advance  .The Atorney general gets his instructions from the Bilderberg annual meeting and ensure the Irish state does thier bidding .
Everything we see on RTE and similar main stream mussled media is a dog and pony show to confuse us.
 The Rockerfeller and Rothchild families decide in advance what laws we Irish  will have and ensure the loop holes are there for them to drive the Globalist agenda and thier communist bus projects through. Ask yoself why they can never get the child protection laws done correctly .Its manditory in the Globalists religion that they can have sex with young children and have legal  loop holes there to protect them if they ever get caught
So now do we get a new puppet Kenny who will take his instructions from the communist hijacked Labour party position wearing pinky camoflage and they ensured they now got e the Atorney General position  who up to now has always been   the true head of the Irish state( Ireland Inc.) .
If she goes to Bilderberg meeting in Switerland  29th june 2012 this year you will know the globalists and communists have taken more control for Ireland
Ask yourself why does Labour NEEEED the Irish  constitution changed . Is the present Irish constitution  blocking thier communist agenda to break up the Irish family unit so that all children will go into government dorm at birth and parent will rarely see them  ???  All the more access for the Globalist peodofiles to gain accesss to even more young unprotected children
The rest like Gormelss and kenny are muppets

Diarmaid O Seigefriede

“Evil prospers when good men do nothing.”


                               Fine Gael and Labour looking after business!

Goes  to show the markets are not jumping for joy(see  “Ireland’s credit rating grouped with Botswana “ ) with the prospect of Fine Gael or Labour taking office soon .They are only offering more of the same gombeenisem  and stroke politics.

Looking after themselves is their number one priority. Here we have ten people who have been telling us the citizens of Ireland that we are livening beyond our means and have justified imposing sever austerity measures never before see in this country .I see the results of these measures every day in all estates around the county of Wicklow below you see their pension payments that they will receive for the rest of their lives and none of the established political parties have come out and promised to cut back on these lottery pensions .These payments are immoral and cannot be justified.

I see evil and I am standing up against it are you with me?

They show how bankrupt the political system and how corrupt it is!  

By voting for the established political parties you are voting for a continuing of this type of behaviour. I am ashamed to go to the doors of people and just stand there and not be able to do anything about this, when you see people who can’t pay for the heating or their car tax or are dreading the next ESB bill or the next VHI notice of payments due.

Wicklow Friday 25th February 2011, 22:00  

                                                       Constituency Betting  

    Singles Only. 5 Seats. To win a seat for the constituency at the next general election. All in, run or not. **Not all candidates are confirmed. Bets will stand regardless.** Others on request.

Billy Timmins (FG) 1/6

Tom Fortune (Lab) 11/8

Pat Kavanagh (Ind) 25/1

Anne Ferris (Lab) 1/3

Pat Fitzgerald (FF) 11/8

Gerry Kinsella (Ind) 25/1

Andrew Doyle (FG) 4/9

Joe Behan (Ind) 11/8

Niall Byrne (Green) 28/1

Conal Kavanagh (Lab) 4/9

John Brady (SF) 7/4

Peter Dempsey 33/1

Dick Roche (FF) 4/6

Stephen Donnelly (Ind) 14/1

Robert Kearns (Ind) 33/1

Simon Harris (FG) 4/6



Judging from the paddy power betting I haven’t got a hope so why do I continue to put myself to the expense of standing when I can’t reach all 130,000 voters in the county when I can only speak to 20 people every hour and only commit to 5 hours every day until the Election Day

Because I want to be able to show my Children I did something to try and stop this outright robbery and I stood up to this corrupt system.

                        Evil prospers when good men do nothing.”

Brian Cowen   310,000:00 Euro FF       Noel Dempsey  313,000:00 Euro FF

Mary Harney  310,000:00 Euro NP       Willie O Dee   270,000:00 Euro  FF

Noel Ahern    310,000:00 Euro FF       Ned o Keeffe 250,000:00 Euro FF

Martin Cullen  265,000:00 Euro FF       Bat O Keeffe   258.000:00 Euro FF

John Gormley  229.000.00 Euro GP       Eamon Ryian  229.000:00 Euro GP

                           Good Men and Woman help stop this now

Green Party wants a General Election by March.

Green Party leader John Gormley says he has told Taoiseach Brian Cowen that the country needs a General Election by March.

Mr Gormley had an hour-long meeting with Mr Cowen at which they discussed the timing of the election and the legislative timetable.

One of their backbenchers Paul Gogarty has indicated they might be prepared to sacrifice their corporate donations legislation to achieve that target.

Mr Gormley said they firmly believed that the Finance Bill could be finished by the end of February and that his conviction was there should be an election in March.

Green Party Senator Dan Boyle meanwhile said that the party wants the General Election to be held in March, and not in April or later.

Mr Boyle was speaking in the Seanad, in response to opposition protests about the lack of certainty over the election date.

Deputy Leader of Fine Gael Dr James Reilly has said his main concern is for the people of Ireland to have their say on the next leader of the country.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Deputy Reilly called on the Government to announce the date of the General Election as soon as possible.

Elsewhere, the Taoiseach has ruled out allowing a Labour Party motion of no confidence in the Government, in Government time, saying that even Fine Gael thought it was ‘stupid’.

Labour leader Eamon Gilmore said the people of the country wanted the Government out and branded it as dysfunctional.

Mr Gilmore said the Taoiseach was using every excuse under the sun to prolong his stay in office and said the country was stuck in the mire.

Speaking during Leaders’ Questions in the Dáil, Mr Cowen said Mr Gilmore was the ‘spokesman for negativity’.

Fine Gael leader Enda Kenny said he thought the no confidence motion was ‘ill-timed’ and ‘ill-judged’.

Earlier, Mr Kenny asked how much money was paid out by Bank of Ireland in bonuses to staff since the introduction of the guarantee scheme and asked if the bonuses would be subject to 90% tax.

The Taoiseach said an intensive investigation was now under way into the matter and said there will be consequences for those who had engaged in any wrongdoing.

Mr Cowen also repeated that the game of golf he played with Sean FitzPatrick in 2008 was an ‘innocent engagement’. He was replying to questions from Sinn Féin’s Caoimghín Ó Caoláin, who said it was time for Mr Cowen to go.

Cowen assumes Foreign Affairs responsibility

Separately, the Taoiseach has confirmed he will be taking on the Foreign Affairs portfolio.

Mr Cowen said that President Mary McAleese has accepted the resignation of Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin.

Mr Martin resigned in the wake of Mr Cowen’s motion of confidence victory at a Fianna Fáil parliamentary party meeting last night.

Fianna Fáil backbencher Mary O’Rourke has said the Taoiseach won last night’s secret ballot by a margin of two to one.

She made the statement on the social networking site, Twitter.

There has been speculation that Finance Minister Brian Lenihan’s position might be damaged by claims from opponents of the Taoiseach that – despite his supportive statement yesterday – he had been encouraging dissent within the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party.

However, Fianna Fáil TD for Limerick East Willie O’Dea has said he sees no reason for Mr Lenihan to resign. Mr O’Dea said the focus for the Government and for the Finance Minister was on getting the Finance Bill passed.

Along with eventually filling the vacancy left by Mr Martin’s departure, Mr Cowen may decide on a broader re-jig of his Cabinet by replacing retiring ministers Noel Dempsey, Dermot Ahern and Tony Killeen.

That would give him the chance of promoting a younger generation and TDs whose seats are in danger. It would be a popular move in the parliamentary party.

Although, Green TD Paul Gogarty said his party would have concerns about what he termed a ‘massive reshuffle’ of ministers.

Hanafin voted against Cowen

There was also speculation that Mary Hanafin’s job as Minister for Tourism, Culture and Sport might be in the mix.

However, the minister has said after voting against a motion of confidence in the Taoiseach last night she met with Mr Cowen, but did not offer her resignation.

Her resignation was not sought by Mr Cowen, she added.

Ms Hanafin said she was happy to remain part of Government, and she said the Taoiseach was happy with that situation too.

The minister said she decided not to discuss her stance at last night’s meeting because she did not want to influence other members of the party.

She said the Taoiseach knew how she would vote and how she felt about his position as Fianna Fáil leader.

The minister said she now has confidence in Mr Cowen as Taoiseach and Fianna Fáil leader, and added that she would take credit, as well as blame, for the Government.

Ms Hanafin insisted her credibility remains intact. Asked if she retained leadership ambitions, the Dún Laoghaire-based TD said her big challenge at present – and only priority – is to get re-elected as a member of the Dáil.

source :http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0119/politics.html

Golf-Gate: Cowen just go !

Here is something I found on youtube

Brian Cowen you’re lucky the taxpayers did not know what you were up to that day!

Even as his political career crumbled, and with party rivals probing his wounds, Brian Cowen couldn’t shake off the tired cliches, defensive persona and sheer bad luck that have defined his time as Taoiseach

ON THURSDAY EVENING he stood in his lovely office, with the flags of the Republic and the EU behind him, his pale face set and strained, impatient at the impertinence of Bryan Dobson’s questions, barely suppressing an explosive frustration. It was impossible not to feel a surge of sympathy for a proud, good man so publicly tethered to a time bomb.

Even still, as the offices of state trembled in anticipation of a heave, even as his mortal political wounds were being clinically probed by his own storied loyalists, Brian Cowen was unable to rise above the tired old script.

“No, I haven’t considered resigning . . . I am now engaged in internal discussion with my own party colleagues . . . I must recognise the concerns within the organisation regarding the election . . .”

Then the lights went out. RTÉ’s connection to Government Buildings went down. A technical malfunction? Or had he pulled the plug? The episode was almost a metaphor for Brian Cowen’s two and a half year stewardship as Taoiseach: the contempt for the messenger; the obsession with internal party considerations; the blindness to the concerns of a vast, troubled audience behind the loathed media; all punctuated by the sudden, dark, desperately unlucky intervention.

When the link was re-established Dobson asked how he could persuade his party that he was the best person to lead them. Cowen could have delivered a passionate, direct appeal over the heads of his party rivals. Instead he replied irritably that he would be “having a discussion with colleagues and I cannot say until I sit down with them . . .”

What was the time frame? Like the scorpion with the frog, he couldn’t help himself. “We don’t run the organisation on the basis of what you say in the media,” he replied. He had to strike. It’s what he does. No matter that it is born of self-delusion and ends in mutual destruction.

No doubt there were loyal party members watching on Thursday who reckoned he had played a blinder, had stuck it to the Dublin media again. Above all, hadn’t he survived? Confounded his critics again? But, like the scorpion, it’s just what he does. It requires no great will, scheme or energy. Nearly 20 years ago he coined the phrase “If in doubt, leave them out” to express his contempt for the party’s PD partners. It was Cowen’s bull-headed, belated call to arms in 2007 that persuaded many voters that only Fianna Fáil had the strength to manage the economy. He survived two no- confidence votes in two years.

The trouble is that for many citizens, those years have been among the most traumatising in living memory. When the old guard rallied around Cowen on Thursday, imploring him not to throw in the towel “after all we’ve been through – for a bloody golf game”, in the words of one, they were missing the point again.

For many of the public that “golf game” crystallised everything that was rotten about the State: the golden circles; the alpha-male covens; the lack of concern for the optics; the blank space in the diary; the drip-drip of information; the routine dismissal of legitimate questions as political gamesmanship – all of which led us to where we are, a place best represented by the devastating image of the IMF’s Ajai Chopra walking past a beggar on St Stephen’s Green.

It’s pertinent to remember that when the Government finally woke up to the threat of losing the Lisbon referendum and an uneasy alliance reigned among the parties, it was Cowen who almost put a spanner in the works by declaring that the Opposition wasn’t working as hard as Fianna Fáil.

“I think there are occasions, in the country’s interest, where the Taoiseach will have to resist the temptation of giving the Opposition parties a kick every time he sees us,” remarked Eamon Gilmore. Cowen chose to ignore that piece of advice, an omission that would gain significance as time went on. Political junkies and bare-knuckle fighters may cherish the notion of a tough and bruising political operator.

The rest of the population has learned painfully that such traits really only count when applied for their benefit, not merely for political survival. Eighty-seven per cent of them, of a 10,000-strong mobile-phone poll on Liveline on Thursday, believed Cowen should step down now. The enduring mystery of Brian Cowen is that he could never lift that famous fighting spirit or command of language to inspire and lead a people craving safe hands and respectful engagement. He used terms such as activation measures, progressity and automaticity, internalising, conflating and subvening.

When the world’s media tuned in to a Dáil speech in the expectation that he would address the financial crisis in the autumn, they heard only robotic assurances and impenetrable Cowenspeak about the “front-loading of consolidation”. He only left behind the Civil Service jargon when he was defending himself or his party. It meant he was capable of doing it. He talked but never appeared to listen, however, even while his Government was making decisions of immense consequence, knowing there was profound confusion and little public support. It seemed the aim was not to engage in meaningful debate but to get across the idea that there was nothing to be debated.

That autocratic attitude was spawned either of arrogance and too many years in power or of a disrespect for the people’s intelligence. Either way it found its apotheosis in “Garglegate”, the infamous Morning Ireland interview after a late night at the Galway think-in last September. For many the problem lay not in the “hoarseness” or “nasal congestion” but in the fact that, when these were stripped away for an interview that ranked as a state-of-the-nation address at a critical time in the nation’s history, the leader was saying nothing that was distinguishable from every Cowenspeak interview he had given for the previous two years.

In recent days he has even had to take lectures on communications from Bertie Ahern, the man in the News of the World cupboard. Cowen should have kept the public informed about the EU-IMF bailout, said Ahern.

“These aren’t state secrets, after all . . . I always took the view, and maybe it’s a difference in style, that you go out there every day and you talk to the media and do your bit . . . When I went the guys took a different view . . . They wouldn’t go out very often and do the daily doorsteps . . . If you ask me, my view is you’re better doing it my way, but he opted not to do that,” he said.

Cowen, by contrast, had commented that Ahern’s resignation marked the end of an era, describing Ahern as the consummate politician of his generation. It’s what Cowen does: that dogged, sightless loyalty to the party and to the tarnished leaders before him, a loyalty that defines his ultimate political philosophy, to the point of self-destruction and even the loss of his beloved party’s electability.

How could he have hoped for credibility and authority while he refused to question their legacy? His excuse for an apology on Ryan Tubridy’s first Late Late Show about the sorry pass to which the party had led the country – “If people want me to apologise, I apologise in the event that people think I did something purposely wrong” – was eloquent testimony to his unwillingness to listen to wiser voices.

For an intelligent man, with Fianna Fáil stamped in his marrow, this week must be akin to Armageddon.

It is almost trite now to recall that glorious sunny day outside Dáil Éireann in May 2008 when he was elected Taoiseach. It seemed to mark a turning of the axis, a new dawn for Irish politics, where substance would replace style and gruffer, timeless rural values would supplant the Westlife bling.

He came with sterling credentials, the first person in the history of the State to fill the four main government offices of taoiseach, tánaiste, foreign affairs and finance. To be sure, aside from that ineradicable party loyalty there was little evidence of convictions in his previous high offices. And the top job had fallen into his lap, without contesting an election as leader, which later would begin to look like a weaker mandate. But back then he had the nation in his hand. They wanted, needed, to believe.

An exultant Offaly poured into the capital on the day of his elevation, wrapping tricolour feather boas around gardaí and dancing to The Offaly Rover . He was greatly loved by his county people, revered by backbenchers, regarded as decent and a man of integrity, even by opposition figures. In the exuberant crowd outside Leinster House Fr Tony Egan, the Augustinian prior proudly kitted out in an Offaly shirt, talked about “huge, huge pride tinged with a little sadness, because [the Cowen family’s] lives are never going to be the same again”. He was prescient. Brian Cowen did not see a day’s luck thereafter.

Under his stewardship the Government developed an uncanny ability to turn bad to worse, to transform a banking crisis into a sovereign-debt crisis and a sovereign-debt crisis into a full-blown crisis of Irish democracy. What began with Seánie and Fingers and Bertie and Charlie ended up with Ajai Chopra and Olli Rehn. In the meantime all the roads that could have been taken – early refusal of the pay rise, dealing with quangos and cronyism, delivering ethics legislation, the chance to usher in an era of honesty, openness, a new trust in authority – were bypassed.

Imagine the difference they would have made when the hard times began to bite. But within six months of that great May celebration in 2008 a committed Cowen supporter was already confiding that Cowen had surrounded himself with cronies and yes-men – “but none that are his equals” – and had stopped listening to more independent voices. He failed to rise above his modest, low-key persona, telling Tubridy when questioned about his drinking that he was trying to be “authentic and true to myself and run a normal life”.

Given the devastating speed of events after his elevation, was such a “normal life” a realistic, even sensible aspiration? The inauguration of Barack Obama only seven months later was almost cruel in its timing for Cowen. Here, at the new year’s dawning, was a tough, confident, intelligent leader offering harsh medicine and hope, placing Americans’ challenge in the context of their forebears’ toil and sacrifice, articulating with curled lip and righteous gaze the people’s disgust at bankers and lobbyists and their cheerleaders.

Back in Ireland people waited and yearned for that decisiveness, that same independence of mind, someone to brew the bloody medicine and get us to swallow it. But they were equally yearning for a vision beyond the sour, gauche “it’s brutal and will get twice as brutal for years and years” mantra, someone to articulate the hope of a more noble, more sustainable nation at the other end, whenever that might be.

Instead the country lurched from drama to crisis, and last September, in a country already utterly humiliated on the international stage, Brian Cowen’s drinking would rear its head again after the Galway fiasco. “He doesn’t realise the dignity of his office,” sighed an Offaly man. “It requires a lot more than he wants to give it.” A trawl among supporters and opposition people of goodwill at the time yielded a view that he was “a natural number-two person”, never a leader.

Who saw that coming on that lovely May morning only 30 months earlier? “He didn’t change; the circumstances did,” says an ally. “But then, thinking back, who else in Fianna Fáil was up to it?”

source :http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/0115/1224287558065.html?via=mr

Gormely and the Greens on Cowens Golf outing with Sean

Look at Gormely try to waffle his way out of a hopeless position he and his Green Party have as much creditability as Fianna Fail .He has gotten so used to his fine suites and high life he will put up with any amount of lies and treachery just to stay in power

Here is another defender of a past  Taoiseach who lied through his teeth and we all know what this Gobs*** got in return for suporting his master   (A decent man) Ahern

John Gormley was emitting sufficient levels of simmering stress and pent-up frustration to be detected by the orbiting International Space Station.

“We’re not Sherlock Holmes,” he declared in a tone of rising exasperation. And in fairness, even the pipe-smoking resident of 221b Baker Street might find the ‘Mysterious Case of the Missing Conversation’ a tough nut to crack.

For last weekend the Green Gumshoe was dramatically presented with not so much a case of Whodunit as with a riddle of Whosaidwhat.

And the puzzle didn’t take place on a dark and stormy night, but on a summer’s day in July 2008 when the newly crowned Taoiseach and Seanie FitzPatrick — the former Anglo boss now widely regarded as a greater arch-villain even than the dastardly Moriarty himself — played a round of golf and then shared a bit of grub at Druid’s Glen golf club.

No crime in that, of course. However, the problem lies in the fact that despite being handed various opportunities over the past two-and-a-half years to do so, Brian Cowen failed to mention this jolly day out to his colleagues in the Dail, let alone his junior partners in government.

Moreover, when the get-together was dramatically unveiled in Seanie’s book, both men were adamant the A-word (Anglo) didn’t come up in conversation.

And this despite the fact the bank was well on its way to becoming the most infamous financial cock-up in the history of the State.

Poor John Gormley. It’s bad enough that he and his band of barnacles are still stuck grimly to the disintegrating hull of the Fianna Fail man’o’war, now the Greens were aghast to find themselves being sucked into a Seanie-shaped brouhaha.

And so, instead of spending a couple of days happily preparing for the party’s think-in in Malahide, John was forced to turn detective and try to get to the bottom of the ‘Case of the Missing Conversation’.

But he was no Sherlock Holmes (and being the party leader behind the banning of stag-hunting, John naturally shied away from sporting a Sherlock-style deerstalker hat).

Instead it was a most unhappy detective who faced a crowded room of hopped-up media in the Grand Hotel in Malahide yesterday.

“We did get our programme manager to make phone calls to the secretary general of the Department of Finance and … we’re not Sherlock Holmes, we’ve done what we can under the circumstances and we have found no evidence,” said a disconsolate John.

A few times during the conference the frustration of Gormley the Green Gumshoe threatened to boil over — once again a party think-in had been spoiled by Fianna Fail shenanigans.

“I find it very regrettable. The last time we met as a group you’ll recall at the last think-in, we were talking about what’s referred to as Garglegate,” he sighed. “Now we’re talking about Golfgate. We want to talk about policy,” he wailed.

And then to add an extra insult, Sinn Fein councillors Larry O’Toole and Dessie Ellis marched into the hotel and right up to the door of the Green’s conclave, demanding (very politely) that the Greens quit Government.

It was all a bit of a ‘Father Ted’ ‘down with this sort of thing’ protest. Larry remonstrated genteelly with the Green’s press officer and a garda detective at the door.

“The Green party think-in isn’t going to save the country at this stage,” remarked Larry to the stony-faced duo and an amused press pack.

Are the Greens really that clueless? The answer is surely elementary, dear Watson.

– Lise Hand

Irish Independent

source : http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/lise-hand-its-not-elementary-for-john-as-case-of-missing-conversation-goes-unsolved-2492712.html

Take a look at prime time on the what is now called Cowen-Gate

link here: http://www.rte.ie/news/player.html#programme=Prime%20Time

The Greens are nailed to their chairs in the Dail

By Kevin Doyle

Tuesday January 11 2011

THE Green Party is set to stand by Taoiseach Brian Cowen even as his own ministers desert him.

John Gormley has described revelations about the Taoiseach’s golfing partnership with disgraced Anglo Irish Bank boss Sean FitzPatrick as “golfgate”.

Ahead of a Green Party think-in today he told that the golf revelations were “regrettable” but “primarily Fianna Fail matters”.

“The Government will have to continue until after the finance bill, it’s as simple as that,” he said.


The comments came as Tourism Minister Mary Hanafin refused three times to express confidence in the Taoiseach.

And Mr Gormley did hint that he believed Mr Cowen’s leadership was under severe threat even before the election.

“The last time we had such a think-in I was answering questions on ‘garglegate’ and now I’m going to be answering questions on ‘golfgate’,” he said.

“So from that perspective it is very regrettable because we want to focus on policy.”

Battling for his political career today Mr Cowen moved to “utterly refute any suggestions of impropriety” arising out of revelations in a new book on Sean FitzPatrick.

Members of the Cabinet are understood to be furious that Mr Cowen played golf with FitzPatrick in July 2008 — just two months before the bank guarantee was introduced.

And at her own election convention in Dun Laoghaire last night, Ms Hanafin struggled to show any significant support for the Taoiseach.

Asked three times if Mr Cowen had her full confidence, Ms Hanafin refused to express full support in him to lead Fianna Fail into the next election.

“If Brian Cowen is my leader leading into the election, I’ll go with that,” she said.

Speaking about the fresh controversy surrounding the relationship between the Taoiseach and Mr FitzPatrick, Ms Hanafin said: “It’s the last thing you want. It’s the last thing you want at the beginning of the year.”

Sources close to Finance Minister Brian Lenihan say that he is also extremely unhappy with the developing situation.

However, there is no sign of leadership favourite Micheal Martin to make any move against Mr Cowen in advance of the election.

Green Party leader had a telephone conversation with the Taoiseach last night and will attend a party think-in in Malahide before the new Dail term begins tomorrow.

Ahead of that, he told the Herald: “The fact of the matter is there’s going to be a finance bill. The country needs a finance bill. That’s the bottom line. The country could be in deep difficulty if that doesn’t go through.”


In his statement last night, Mr Cowen said that “no discussions” about the problems at Anglo Irish Bank took place on the golf course in Druids Glen.

“It was a social outing in full public view. There was nothing untoward, no hidden or secret agenda and no concessions, favours or interventions requested or granted,” he said.

“Certain people are drawing inferences for political and other motives, they are malicious, unfounded and have no basis in fact.”


source: http://www.herald.ie/national-news/greens-back-cowen-on-golfgate-as-his-own-party-deserts-him-2491434.html


Again we the citizens of Ireland have been let down by the failure of the Greens to stand up in the face of obvious lying this time coming from Brian Cowan. Is He really asking the people of Ireland to believe that he would play a round of golf and have a nice dinner with Sean Fitz and not talk about the problems of Anglo Irish Bank in all those six and a half hours he was in his company???

Gormely has confirmed that the Greens are nailed to their chairs in the Dail and nothing will tear them away from their merks and perks!

I have a question to ask the people of Ireland. Is Irish politics any better now than it was 10 years ago? It is undoubtedly worse. With all the scandals, the financial meltdown, the nod-and-wink culture has survived, Along with it the practice of incomprehensible explanations and defenses. No wonder the public have nothing but contempt and anger towards the political establishment and the Greens in government have sadly made a major contribution to this sorry state!


Cowen looking after the vested interest of his pals in the Banks

Golfgate: Cowen encounter with Sean FitzPatrick revealed
today at 1:36 pm


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The Sunday Times has revealed that the former head of Anglo Irish Bank played golf with Brian Cowen as the bank headed towards oblivion.

The revelation of Golfgate comes in an exclusive interview with Sean FitzPatrick by the paper in which FitzPatrick tells that he played golf and had dinner with the then newly installed Taoiseach in July 2008 just months before the government introduced the bank guarantee scheme.

It has also emerged that Cowen spoke over the phone to FitzPatrick in March 2008, at which point he was still Minister for Finance. In that conversation Cowen was informed that there was an issue with the bank shares held by Seán Quinn.

In a statement to the Sunday Times, Cowen has admitted that the previously undisclosed encounters took place, describing hi round of golf with FitzPatrick as a “social occasion” at which “the affairs of Anglo Irish Bank were not discussed”.

In the interview with FitzPatrick, the former bank boss expresses serious regret at what happened at Anglo Irish but also says that he considers himself “an obvious scapegoat for the media and politicians” and describing himself as “one of the biggest victims of the current banking crisis.

Labour’s spokeperson on finance Joan Burton has said that she is “deeply concerned” at the revelations of contacts between Cowen and FitzPatrick and that she finds it “beyond belief” that the situation at the bank wasn’t discussed when the two men met.

Green Party Chairman Dan Boyle, whose party are in government with Cowen’s Fianna Fáil, has said that his party views the substance of the article “very seriously”.

Fine Gael TD Alan Shatter said that the Taoiseach needs to explain why he concealed public knowledge of the contacts and whether Green Party ministers were informed.


Cowen urged to explain bank talks

(UKPA) – 2 hours ago

The Green Party is demanding an explanation from Brian Cowen about previously undisclosed talks with former Anglo Irish Bank chief Sean FitzPatrick in the run-up to the State banking guarantee.

John Gormley, leader of the junior coalition partners, has asked to talk personally with the Taoiseach on Monday specifically about the latest revelations.

Mr Cowen confirmed he played golf and dined with Mr FitzPatrick two months before the taxpayer-backed bailout to save Anglo and other homegrown Irish banks from near collapse in September 2008.

source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5ioiqEuZX1c7kNP40kaRiZvT0sQEQ?docId=N0056971294591548963A


Is there still anybody out there that believes that the Bailout was in the interest of the Irish Taxpayers . It is just unbelievable that the Greens could be so naïve that Cowen and |Lenihan would not have told them everything .Surely Gorman when they have been lying to the people of Ireland along with yourself and your own band of misfits why should you be so surprised that they were dealing with the banks behind you back ? They have been using you all along and that is the sad part you sold your core values out just to sit beside these Traitors .So what does that make you ?

NAMA’s report and accounts for Q3,2010 – Ten things to look out for

NAMA’s report and accounts for Q3,2010 – Ten things to look out for
namawinelake | January 7, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Categories: NAMA | URL: http://wp.me/pNlCf-V0

NAMA’s first set of accounts for the period ending 31st March, 2010 were delivered to the Department of Finance at the end of June 2010 in accordance with the timescales set out in section 55 of the NAMA Act and were published on 7th July, 2010. The second set of accounts for Q2, 2010 were presumably delivered by the end of September 2010 and published on 2nd November, 2010. When will the Q3, 2010 accounts, that were due to be delivered by NAMA to DoF by the end of December 2010, be published? Going on the limited experience of Q1 and Q2, anytime between now and the first week of February. This entry looks ahead to what NAMA’s report for Q3, 2010 might reveal.
(1) NAMA is likely to show a profit for Q3 (it reported a loss of €7m for Q1 and profit of €6m for Q2). But the number one question that should be asked of NAMA is “what loss would you show if you revalued your loan assets”. My estimate of the loss would be in the €2-3bn range. Why? Because NAMA is valuing loans according to property values at November 2009 (and paying a Long Term Economic Value premium of some 10% to boot). Although some NAMA markets (UK commercial property, Far East property and some US micro-markets) have improved, two thirds of NAMA loan assets are located in Ireland where both residential and commercial are down some 10% since November 2009. Revalue those NAMA loans according to September 2010 values and you will see a revaluation loss in the order of €2-3bn (very roughly by the end of Q3, NAMA had  T1, T2 and most of T3 totalling some €18bn at NAMA-consideration value or €16bn without LEV and that two thirds had dropped by 10% and one third had risen by 10%). NAMA is unlikely to have revalued its loan assets on a quarterly basis so that loss is unlikely to be shown anywhere in the Q3 accounts but it should be the subject of the number one question put to NAMA and the DoF when the accounts are published. “At the time it was set up in 2009 people were saying that Nama would lose money, but it hasn’t. They said that it would pay over the odds for loans, and again it hasn’t.” said Green Party minister, John Gormley, in an interview with the Independent last week – sadly he is wrong on both counts, but he might be forgiven by NAMA not revaluing loans on a quarterly basis. Of course it should be stressed that revaluation losses are “paper losses” and property prices might recover and erase any temporary loss.
(2) Derivative losses: In just two days to the end of March 2010, NAMA managed to make a loss of €1.4m on derivatives it had taken over from the banks. And in Q2, the agency racked up additional derivative losses of €60.335m (note 6 on page 26). These losses were reported as “paper losses” because they simply reflected the movement in NAMA’s exposure which could theoretically reverse in future. I can’t help but worry that there is a hornets nest here which might swell into colossal losses in future periods and it is all the more frustrating because so little information has been released on the nature of these derivatives that NAMA is absorbing. NAMA engaged an experienced third party bank, Societe General, to help it value derivative exposures being absorbed.
(3) Repayments of capital: By the end of September 2010, NAMA had taken over loans at an estimated par value of some €40bn (it’s unclear because Tranche 3 was abandoned on 30th September 2010 but is likely to have substantially transferred anyway). NAMA said before Christmas that it had approved the sale of €1.6bn of assets (upto €2bn according to the NTMA’s statement today). Surely some substantial capital was repaid. In Q2, NAMA saw €117m being repaid in cash by developers though NAMA did not split this between interest generated in Q2 and capital repayments. But we can surely expect to see some substantial “low lying fruit” capital repayment to the end of September 2010.
(4) Interest received: From inception to the end of June, 2010 NAMA generated €91m in interest from developers. Practically all of this was generated in Q2. but it is unclear from NAMA’s accounts how much of this was paid in cash to NAMA. This interest receivable figure should increase substantially in Q3.
(5) Working capital advances to developers: In Q2, NAMA made €47m available to developers. This figure is set to increase with more cash starved projects being transferred to the agency in Q3. In October 2010, NAMA repaid the €250m loan it received from the Department of Finance in May 2010 (together with interest of €1,065,625) so any further advances from NAMA are likely to have been made from loan and interest repayments from developers. NAMA’s funding programmes seem to have been abandoned for the time being but the next report might give some clarity as to how the €5bn provided for in the NAMA Act is to be raised by NAMA.
(6) Legal cases. Now this should be interesting because NAMA is required to set out details of legal cases with which it is involved. And memorably NAMA was rattling its saber at the start of September, 2010 boldly asserting that it would be taking action against 12 developers involving €300m imminently. Even if the cases are commenced by proxy by NAMA Participating Institutions, it should be the case that NAMA provides details. In terms of formal cases involving NAMA there was (i) the successful application for an order against Paddy Shovlin and the Fitzpatrick brothers (ii) the successful defence against Paddy McKillen (iii) the case where NAMA is listed as an interested party where Clare developers, John Flanagan and Gerard Lillis are contesting the appointment of NAMA Board member Brian McEnery as a receiver to their companies and a declaration that Anglo and NAMA are “amenable to judicial review”.  I believe this last case (referenced 2010/967 JR at the High Court) is still outstanding. In November and December 2010, NAMA successfully sought the appointment of receivers to two Bernard McNamara companies and to Paddy Doyle and Paddy Burke companies and a liquidator was appointed to the Whelan group.
(7) Performing loans. NAMA has now more or less given a working definition of what it means by performing loans – operating in accordance with loan agreements AND repaying interest AND arrears of no more than 30 days. In the October 2009 draft Business Plan the predicted % of loans that would be performing was 40%, this had fallen to 33% by April 2010 and was 25% in the June 2010 Business Plan but was up at 29% In June 2010 by reference to the par value of the loan.
(8) Breakdown of loans received: How many loans were bought for zero consideration. Just as interesting, how many were bought with practically no haircut whatsoever. Remember NAMA has not produced any information on tranches since completing the acquisition of the Tranche 2 in August 2010. Tranche 3 was abandoned in September 2010 and although we have had mini-tranche updates from AIB in November and December 2010, there is likely to have been substantial loan acquisition in August and September that hasn’t hitherto been reported.
(9) Professional fees: I don’t think people generally realise the extent of the vast army of firms providing services to NAMA. 64 firms of solicitors in Ireland alone, another 8 in the UK, 30-odd valuation companies,  the outsourcing giant Capita and individual organisations providing a host of other services. It is truly immense and so also are the fees. NAMA was expecting to have operating costs of €240m in its first year of operation. It is difficult to tell how much has been spent and on what companies from NAMA’s accounting treatment of these costs which are sometimes charged to the Profit and Loss account and sometimes to the Balance Sheet but the next report might provide some detailed information.
(10) Accounting transparency. I must say, putting on an accountant’s hat, that it is quite difficult to extract information from NAMA’s accounts. That is partly due to there being six-odd companies in the group and a lot of intercompany transactions involving loans and interest. NAMA now show in notes to the accounts the nominal value of loans as well as the consideration paid by NAMA for the loans (Brian Flanagan might be a little happier) but it is difficult to understand how NAMA calculates the interest due on loans (is it for the nominal amount or on the consideration paid by NAMA). NAMA doesn’t split cash receipts from developers between interest and capital. It is unclear if cash receipts include involves NAMA’s reported control of rent rolls. Elsewhere when NAMA pays for professional services it might record the expense in its profit and loss account or its balance sheet and it becomes difficult to establish exactly how much is being paid by NAMA to third party service providers.

source :http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/nama%e2%80%99s-report-and-accounts-for-q32010-%e2%80%93-ten-things-to-look-out-for/

Focus Ireland

Dear Machholz,
Many thanks for taking the time to e-mail Minister for the Environment John Gormley calling on him to honour his commitment to protect the budget for homeless services.
This was our most successful on-line campaign to date with 773 people e-mailing Minister Gormley over four weeks.
As you all know by now Budget 2011 was the harshest in decades. Widespread cuts were made across all Departments and spending programmes.
While it is regrettable that the Department of Environment budget for homeless services was cut by 4.6%, it is clear that homeless services were spared the level of cuts experienced by many other spending programmes.
We have no doubt that this was influenced by your e-mail directly to the Minister, highlighting the high level of public support for providing vital services for people experiencing homelessness and for a strategy to end homelessness.
Th e exact impact of these cuts on homeless services and on people experiencing homelessness will not be clear until next year.
Focus Ireland will be do everything in our power to minimise the impact of these funding cuts, and of the cuts in welfare and other services, on people who are homeless or at risk of becoming homeless.
We will also continue to advocate on behalf of people who do not have a place to call home, and will be relying on your support again in the new year.
Many thanks for your support, have a merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Mike Allen
Director of Advocacy

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