The current Irish Government are responsible for the financial disaster the country is in,
With the establishment of NAMA the Government is trying to socialize the enormous losses that the Banks and their Developer buddies have encored.
Corruption is rife and now a new monster burocratic system is being created, where X politicians will have jobs for life and the same corrupt developers will be able to manipulate the housing market all over again
While the people are being robbed of their homes, savings, pensions, and education for their children, that same gangsters are running the country
This has to stop!
Join the CAB to-day and get things moving
Come on! Get active in your own area now!
We as a country need new faces and not the same old tired faces that have being around using the system to suite themselves.
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The current Irish Government are responsible for the financial disaster the country is in,
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Do you really want to know what is really going on in the market place?
Ever heard of the “Rigged Market capitalists system”
Are you ready for this news??
Ernst & Young auditors of Anglo Irish Bank now working for NAMA ,
The same auditors for Lehman Brothers .
This is criminal , allowing this to go on, they should all be in Jail !
We must have a new Irish people’s political party that will stop this fraud in its tracks.
A political party that will prosecute all the individuals responsible for this criminal conspiracy
They must be brought to justice
We the people must have our pound of flesh!
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Ombusdman Emily O’Reilly claimed today the work of her office was being undermined by what she described as “deficits in our parliamentary and government arrangements”.
In an address to the Institute of Public Administration in Dublin today, Ms O’Reilly criticised the Government’s decision last month to vote against a proposal to have her report on a grant aid scheme for commercial fishermen referred to an Oireachtas committee.
She said the handling of the controversial Lost to Sea report illustrated how the Oireachtas was being side-lined. Ms O’Reilly published the report last December after its findings were rejected by the Department of Agriculture, only the second time this has happened since the office of ombudsman was founded in the 1980s.
“Unfortunately, the model of government set out in the Irish Constitution has become more of a fiction than a reality,” Ms O’Reilly said. “In practice the Dáil, and to a slightly lesser extent the Seanad, is controlled very firmly by the Government parties through the operation of the whip system.
“For all practical purposes, and I very much regret having to say this so bluntly, parliament in Ireland has been sidelined and is no longer in a position to hold the executive to account,” she said. “With the exception of the election of a Taoiseach, almost all decisions of importance are taken by the executive and are rubber-stamped by parliament.”
The Lost at Sea scheme was established in 2001 by then minister for the marine Frank Fahey. Under the scheme, owners of fishing boats lost at sea could apply for grant aid for replacement capacity.
The Byrne family from Donegal later complained to the ombudsman after its application was rejected, on the grounds it was made after the deadline.
Ms O’Reilly’s report criticised several aspects of the scheme, including the advertising process, which she found was not comprehensive enough. She recommended compensation of €245,000 for the Byrnes.
Ms O’Reilly said last month the Dáil and Seanad had the task of deciding who is right and wrong in her dispute with the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries.
But following a heat Dáil debate on the matter last month, the Government voted against referring the report to the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.
In her speech today, Ms O’Reilly claimed the Government had stopped the Oireachtas adjudicating on her dispute with the Department of Agriculture by voting “along party political lines”.
She said this illustrated “how deficits in our parliamentary and government arrangements can adversely affect” the work of her office.
Ms O’Reilly said she would have expected a parliamentary committee, following appropriate scrutiny, to reach the conclusion that her recommendation in the report that financial compensation be paid to the complainant.
She said her office “had done, in its area of responsibility, precisely what the Financial Regulator was accused of not doing, in terms of failing to serve the public interest and rooting out maladministration in the banking system”.
Ms O’Reilly said she hoped the Oireachtas may yet find a mechanism to allow the report to be dealt with “calmly and reasonably”.
In a wide-ranging speech, the Ombudsman said poor governance in a number of our key private and public institutions lies at the heart of our economic downturn.
This is just the latest example of how our constitution does not meet the challenges from our own government with the self-interests now blatantly using the executive power to promote the interests of the chosen few
The political system in now was used and abused by a totally corrupt political elite and their lackeys.
The Dail is no longer listening to the voice of the Irish people.
Wrangling over the plum jobs and positions of power are the order of the day, sqandering billions down toxic Bank holes under the guise of the Con NAMA , and robbing ordinary people of their dignity in sickness
By putting them on trolleys in hallways, along hospitals corridors
Forcing the unemployed to work for nothing is programs (WPP) from discredited FAS
Allowing Bank Directors to be rewarded, who have supervised the systematic destruction of our national banking system to continue in place while the public loses their pensions and the shareholder loses 95% of their holdings!
Our political masters are so interconnected with these gangsters they have put the interests of International bond holders (NAMA)over the interests of the Irish people. We are no longer a free and independent nation our freedom has being given away and we and our children and the next generation are now financial slaves to foreign vested interests
This is treachery and it seems the constitutional rights of the of the people of Ireland are been ignored .This Dail no longer represents the people and any amount of shuffling the chairs around a corrupt cabinet will change nothing!
Traitors are still traitors it doesn’t matter where they sit
We the people want those responsible removed from their plum jobs and brought before the people’s justice. We also demand the a new government renegotiate the huge debts that were incurred by their corrupt bankers and the said Bank directors made pay from their own funds
Those responsible must not benefit in any way from their crimes.
These people at the top are the problem and until they all go Ireland hasn’t got any hope of retrieving its once cherished independence.
God save Ireland from NAMA and these Gangsters!
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Reading the Sunday newspapers to –day, I don t know which is more depressing
The prospect of having the opposition takes the place of the current bag of misfits in the Dail
I mean they haven’t really distinguished themselves and I am not so sure of their solutions to the whole NAMA Con job.
Their proposals are exactly what???
The Government seems to be trying to control the content of our main stream newspapers by touting the cabinets possible re- shuffle in the coming weeks and are deflecting away from more inportant thing like NAMA
I know I should say shuffling the chairs on the titanic but you all know that is the case already don’t you!
Anyway the good news this week was that the European Commissions latest’s utterances on the subject NAMA , looks like it would save us from our own corrupt governments attempt to defrauded every man woman and child living in the state with is attempt to overpay bankrupt banks billions for worthless toxic assets !
David Mc Williams article will clarify things a little better no doubt but it won’t cheer me up though!
link to David’s article http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/02/28/it-took-europe-to-rein-in-nama
The European Commission cleared the corrupt Irish governments plan to bail out the countries financial institutions. Ireland established the National Asset Management Agency last year as a Toxic “bad bank,” thus bailing out well connected developers and the criminal activities of the top banks
These Toxic and worthless assets will be purchased from these firms with Irish government bonds. To the tune of now 80 billion Euros
The commission said the Irish plan was in line with rules allowing state subsidies to business during a serious economic crisis. The measure, which is said to targeted the real estate assets, but is also bailing out the banks bad derivative positions is key to cleaning up Irish banks
Five Irish financial firms plan to use the plan, according to the commission.
The bank involved are : Anglo Irish Bank, Allied Irish Banks, Bank of Ireland, Irish National Building Society and Educational Building Society.
what we are seeing is the complete destruction of private enterprise as we know it from now on we will have to ask permission from the corrupt bosses in Brussels to wipe our a****
Out national independence is now lost and our own corrupt government have sold us out to their real bosses the international bond holders
Every one of them deserves to be hanged on charges of treachery!
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Opposition parties have sought an assurance from the Government that other banks will not follow the lead of Permanent TSB if it puts up its variable mortgage interest rates.
Finance Minister Brian Lenihan said that no Minister for Finance since the foundation of the State had come into the Dáil and announced what mortgage interest rates would be.
He also pointed out that Permanent TSB had not applied to come under NAMA, nor had it sought any recapitalisation from the State.
Mr Lenihan added that Permanent TSB had paid for the benefit of the State
and said the bank was in a difficult situation with historically low interest rates.
Lenihan again, cops out!
Has he forgotten that is the Governments guarantees ,that keeps this corrupt financial Toxic Bank Afloat?
All he has to do is make a phone call, but for 70 thousand family’s,
The sad news is,
You’re not worth it!
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I believe that the banks Allied Irish Bank, Bank of Ireland and Anglo Irish Bank are all hopelessly exposed to huge losses as a result of Derivative trading
They should be asked to come clean and give categorical assurances on their Derivative Trading
Apart from the huge losses on their propriety /mortgages business.ie (subprime desaster), there is another enormous source of losses from the same banks and that is their trading in the “BOND MARKET” again I believe that they have huge exposure here as well
These Banks have lent approximately 400 billion Euros and all of it borrowed from foreign banks, these funds would have had to have “Hedging ” or have an insurance taken out ,in case of default !
So what kind of insurance did they get then if not Derivatives?
Derivatives typically have a large notional value. As such, there is the danger that their use could result in losses that the investor would be unable to compensate for. The possibility that this could lead to a chain reaction ensuing in an economic crisis, has been pointed out by famed investor Warren Buffett in Berkshire Hathaway‘s 2002 annual report. Buffett called them ‘financial weapons of mass destruction.’ The problem with derivatives is that they control an increasingly larger notional amount of assets and this may lead to distortions in the real capital and equities markets. Investors begin to look at the derivatives markets to make a decision to buy or sell securities and so what was originally meant to be a market to transfer risk now becomes a leading indicator.
These Derivatives were traded like confetti at a wedding and have about the same value now !
If a bank goes bust, deals are just canceled and the residual amount is transferred to the legal department. Everyone can live with that. The burden is transferred from the agent (trading floor) to the principal (the shareholders). Because risk cannot be hedged properly by market professionals, it needs to be taken over by a succession of outsiders. If outsiders are not willing to play anymore (Derivative traders) or go bust, (AIG) then risk concentrates again inside the market, where it cannot be hedged and goes Bust.
So derivatives are only as safe as their underlying risk is liquid and delta-hedgeable.
Brian Cowen was the Finance Minister who oversaw all this gambling activity at the major Irish banks and should be made accountable for the Total Destruction of the Irish financial industry
Brian Lenihian is colluding with the Greens to hide the catastrophic nature of the major Banks debts! Indeed I go so far as to say they may be kept in the dark as to the combined total losses which I estimate at Anglo Irish Bank to be somewhere north of 120 Billion Euros alone!
If I am wrong, then prove me wrong, by showing us the figures of Anglo Irish Bank .
Open the books let us see for ourselves
Don’t let anyone tell you that Anglo was nor dealing in Bonds or Derivative Products,
I call on the Minister of Finance to come out on to the Dail floor and tell the Nation that the Irish Banks have no exposure to these Derivative Markets.
But before you do I have a question for you!
Why was there this amendment made to the NAMA Legislation?
Page 15 of the draft NAMA legislation says that the definition of a “credit facility” includes instruments such as”a hedging or derivative facility.” Section 56, starting on page 46, then defines eligible assets for purchase by NAMA as a range of different types of “credit facilities” as well as “any other class of bank asset (Derivatives) the acquisition of which, in the opinion of the Minister, is necessary for the purposes of this Act.”
Why is the National Treasury Management Agency actively looking to recruit a Derivatives Valuation Service Provider to NAMA?
And before you deny that look below!
|Title:||Appointment of a Derivatives Valuation Service Provider to NAMA|
|Published by:||National Treasury Management Agency|
|Notice Deadline Date:||08/09/2009|
|Notice Deadline Time:||16:00|
|Notice Type:||Contract Notice|
|Abstract:||On the direction of the Minister for Finance, the NTMA is seeking to appoint a Derivatives Valuation Service Provider to provide valuation services (the “Services”) in respect of derivatives positions which will be transferred to NAMA. It is envisaged that one firm will be appointed to conduct the valuation of derivative positions transferring from all of the participating institutions. The Service Provider appointed will be expected to: A. Interact closely with participating institutions in order to extract key data items agreed with NAMA and required in order to carry out the valuation of derivatives. B. Determine derivatives’ valuations based on market-accepted methodologies and market rates. Valuations will incorporate adjustments which will be based on the creditworthiness of the derivatives’ counterparties and which will be specified in guidelines agreed by NAMA with the service provider.
C. The Service Provider will be required to work closely with an Audit Co-ordinator appointed by NTMA. The Audit Co-ordinator will collate valuation data and conduct audits of valuations provided by the Service Provider.
D. The Service Provider will be expected to provide a certificate to NAMA on completion of all valuations which confirms that the valuation of derivatives has been carried out on the basis of a market-accepted methodology and assumptions provided by NAMA and represents a fair assessment of the market value of such derivatives.
Well Boys I can save you the trouble,
There is no way in hell that anybody can put a valuation on these toxic papers /contracts .
With the collapse of the AIG the effective market no longer exists
To prove my point
When Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy, it triggered the transfer of large sums in the CDS market to insure buyers of Lehman credit default risk protection against all losses from that event. The sellers of these contracts received the Lehman debt and in return they were obligated to pay the contract buyers (the insured parties) enough money to make the buyers “whole” i.e. to give them their full investment in the bonds back as if they had never bought the Lehman bonds.
The auction for Lehman’s debt occurred on Friday afternoon and the final auction price was $8.62. This means that for each $100 initial par value, the debt is only worth $8.62. The sellers of Lehman CDSs (Derivative contracts) were obligated to pay the insured counterparties 91.375% of the bonds’ face value and, in return, they received the bonds.
Who had to foot the bill for Lehman CDSs (Derivative contracts) Why AIG of course!
There was a 92% loss on the stated value of the Lehman contracts and I would suspect that there in now no value on all other outstanding contracts .Why ,because there isn’t enough money printed all over the world to pay for all the contracts that have being entered into .
The perceived values of these Derivatives were based on “thrust” and not real true values!
What are Derivates????
Here is a short introduction I manages to find /compile for those of you that are interested in this the mother of all financial scams.
The current difficulties we are witnessing in the financial markets, is just one leg of a 3 legged stool that has come off .The next leg that is about to fall off is the Derivatives leg
and this is
Derivatives are contracts whose value is “derived” from the price of something else, typically, ‘cash market investments’ such as stocks, bonds, money market instruments or commodities.
An equity derivative, for example, might give you the right to buy a particular share at a stated price up to a given date. And in these circumstances the value of that right will be directly related to the price of the “underlying” share: if the share price moves up, then the right to buy at a fixed price becomes more valuable; if it moves down, the right to buy at a fixed price becomes less valuable.
This is but one example of a particular kind of derivative contract. However, the close relationship between the value of a derivative contract and the value of the underlying asset is a common feature of all derivatives.
There are many different types of derivative contract, based on lot of different financial instruments; share prices, foreign exchange, interest rates, the difference between two different prices, or even derivatives of derivatives. The possible combinations of products are almost limitless. What then are derivatives used for?
Derivatives have two main uses: hedging and trading.
Suppose you have a position in a cash market which you want to maintain for whatever reason – it may be difficult to sell, or perhaps it forms part of your long term portfolio. However, you anticipate an adverse movement in its price. With a derivatives hedge it is possible to protect these assets from the fall in value you fear. Let’s see how.
As we have already said, the value of a derivative contract is related to the value of the underlying asset it relates to. Because of this, with derivatives, it is possible to establish a position (with the same exposure in terms of the value of the contract), which will fluctuate in value almost in parallel with an equivalent underlying position.
It is also possible with derivative contracts to go either long or short; in other words you can take an opposite position to the position you have in a particular underlying asset (or portfolio).
Hedging involves taking a temporary position in a derivatives contract(s), which is equal and opposite to your cash market position in order to protect the cash position against loss due to price fluctuations. As the price moves, loss is made on the underlying, whilst profit is made on the derivative position, the two canceling each other out.
Protecting assets which you hold from a fall in value by selling an equivalent number of derivative contracts, is known as a short hedge.
A long hedge, on the other hand, involves buying derivatives as a temporary substitute for buying the underlying at some future point. This is to lock in a buying price. In other words, you are protecting yourself against an increase in the underlying price between now and when you buy in the future.
Cash and derivatives markets move together more or less in parallel, but not always at the same time, or to the same extent. This introduces a certain amount of what is called hedge inefficiency, which may need to be adjusted. At other times, an imperfect hedge might be knowingly established, which leaves a small exposure to the underlying market depending on the risk appetite of the individual.
Derivatives trading, as opposed to hedging, means buying and selling a derivatives instrument in its own right, without, that is, a transaction in the underlying. For instance, a trader can get exposure to the US government bond market by buying and selling US government bond futures without ever dealing in the actual bonds themselves.
The aim when trading derivative contracts is profit, not protection.
The risks associated with derivatives are very different to those incurred in the cash markets. When buying a share for example – a long position – your maximum possible loss is the amount you originally paid for it.
Derivatives, on the other hand, exhibit a lot of different risk profiles. Some provide limited risk and unlimited upside potential.
For example, the risk of loss with a derivative contract which confers a right to buy a particular asset at a particular price is limited to the amount you have paid to hold that right. However, profit potential is unlimited.
Others display risk characteristics in which while your potential gain is limited, your losses are potentially unlimited.
For example, if you sell a derivative contract which confers the right to buy a particular asset at a particular price, your profit is limited to the amount you receive for conferring that right, but, because you have to deliver that asset to the counterpart at expiry of the contract, your potential loss is unlimited.
Because of the wide range of risk profiles which derivative contracts exhibit, it is vital that you have a clear understanding of the risk/return characteristics of any derivative strategy before you execute it.
Apart from the structure of the instrument itself, the source of a lot of the risk associated with derivative contracts stems from the fact that they are leveraged contracts.
Derivative products are said to be ‘leveraged’ because only a proportion of their total market exposure needs to be paid to open and maintain a position. This percentage of the total is called a ‘margin’ in futures markets; and a ‘premium’ in options markets. In this context, ‘leverage’ is the word used in all English-speaking derivative markets.
Because of leverage your market exposure with derivative contracts can be several times the cash you have placed on deposit as “margin” for the trade, or paid in the form of a premium.
Leverage, of course, can work both in your favor and against you. A derivative which gives you a market exposure of 10 times the funds placed on deposit is excellent if prices are moving in your favor, but not so good if they are moving against you, as losses will mount up very rapidly.
In other words, with leveraged positions, losses are magnified as well as gains.
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What is the Bond Market??
The bond market (also known as the debt, credit, or fixed income market) is a financial market where participants buy and sell debt securities, usually in the form of bonds. As of 2006, the size of the international bond market is an estimated $45 trillion, of which the size of the outstanding U.S. bond market debt was $25.2 trillion.
Nearly all of the $923 billion average daily trading volume (as of early 2007) in the U.S. bond market takes place between broker-dealers and large institutions in a decentralized, over-the-counter (OTC) market. However, a small number of bonds, primarily corporate, are listed on exchanges.
References to the “bond market” usually refer to the government bond market, because of its size, liquidity, lack of credit risk and, therefore, sensitivity to interest rates. Because of the inverse relationship between bond valuation and interest rates, the bond market is often used to indicate changes in interest rates or the shape of the yield curve.
Bond markets in most countries remain decentralized and lack common exchanges like stock, future and commodity markets. This has occurred, in part, because no two bond issues are exactly alike, and the number of different securities outstanding is far larger.
However, the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) is the largest centralized bond market, representing mostly corporate bonds. The NYSE migrated from the Automated Bond System (ABS) to the NYSE Bonds trading system in April 2007 and expects the number of traded issues to increase from 1000 to 6000.
Types of bond markets
The Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association classifies the broader bond market into five specific bond markets.
- Government & agency
- Mortgage backed, asset backed, and collateralized debt obligation
Bond market participants
Bond market participants are similar to participants in most financial markets and are essentially either buyers (debt issuer) of funds or sellers (institution) of funds and often both.
Because of the specificity of individual bond issues, and the lack of liquidity in many smaller issues, the majority of outstanding bonds are held by institutions like pension funds, banks and mutual funds. In the United States, approximately 10% of the market is currently held by private individuals.
Bond market volatility
For market participants who own a bond, collect the coupon and hold it to maturity, market volatility is irrelevant; principal and interest are received according to a pre-determined schedule.
But participants who buy and sell bonds before maturity are exposed to many risks, most importantly changes in interest rates. When interest rates increase, the value of existing bonds fall, since new issues pay a higher yield. Likewise, when interest rates decrease, the value of existing bonds rise, since new issues pay a lower yield. This is the fundamental concept of bond market volatility: changes in bond prices are inverse to changes in interest rates. Fluctuating interest rates are part of a country’s monetary policy and bond market volatility is a response to expected monetary policy and economic changes.
Economists’ views of economic indicators versus actual released data contribute to market volatility. A tight consensus is generally reflected in bond prices and there is little price movement in the market after the release of “in-line” data. If the economic release differs from the consensus view the market usually undergoes rapid price movement as participants interpret the data. Uncertainty (as measured by a wide consensus) generally brings more volatility before and after an economic release. Economic releases vary in importance and impact depending on where the economy is in the business cycle.
Investment companies allow individual investors the ability to participate in the bond markets through bond funds, closed-end funds and unit-investment trusts. In 2006 total bond fund net inflows increased 97% from $30.8 billion in 2005 to $60.8 billion in 2006. Exchange-traded funds (ETFs) are another alternative to trading or investing directly in a bond issue. These securities allow individual investors the ability to overcome large initial and incremental trading sizes.
Main article: Bond market index
A number of bond indices exist for the purposes of managing portfolios and measuring performance, similar to the S&P 500 or Russell Indexes for stocks. The most common American benchmarks are the Lehman Aggregate, Citigroup BIG and Merrill Lynch Domestic Master. Most indices are parts of families of broader indices that can be used to measure global bond portfolios, or may be further subdivided by maturity and/or sector for managing specialized portfol
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