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Should the transfer of Anglo’s remaining NAMA tranches be put on hold ?

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Should the transfer of Anglo’s remaining NAMA tranches be put on hold pending clarification of Anglo’s total costs?
namawinelake | August 27, 2010 at 10:15 am
Anglo has transferred a cumulative total of €16bn of its NAMA-bound loans in tranches 1 and 2, leaving an estimated €20bn in its remaining tranches if the estimates in NAMA’s revised Business Plan and accompanying tranche 2 detail are correct (what introduces some doubt is the claim two weeks ago by the Anglo CEO Mike Aynsley that €2-4bn of NAMA-bound loans in the UK and US may be “reclassified” in agreement with NAMA).
If tranches 1 and 2 are anything to go by, NAMA will in future pay Anglo a Long Term Economic Value (LEV) premium of 10-12% of the current market value of the loans. So if €20bn is still valid as the face value of the remaining Anglo loans and they have a current market value of 45% of their face value, then NAMA will be paying €0.9-1.1bn above the current market value of the loans. That is a substantial sum of money to be gifting a bank whose future is being debated as we speak at the EU with a European preliminary view on the future of Anglo due in weeks.
The perpetual murmurs of disquiet about Anglo have grown substantially in volume this week. Standard and Poor’s downgrade of Ireland’s credit rating was predicated in part on their assessment of the increased cost of bailing out Anglo at €35bn. Last week in Beijing the Governor of the Central Bank broke the news that “Anglo may impose a NET [my emphasis] cost to the Government of about €22-€25 billion”. A net cost of course could be a gross cost of €35bn with €10bn recouped over time (eg through sale of a government stake in Anglo’s Newbank, redemption of NAMA bonds at face value rather than the accounting value which might assume a large discount). Trinity College economics professor Constantin Gurdgiev repeated his view that Anglo could incur losses of “€33bn in mid-range case, rising to €38.6bn in the worst case scenario”. It is not clear if these losses equate to a net cost to the State as there may already be provisions for these losses and Anglo has a (small) capital base. Today in the Irish Times, former Ulster Bank chief economist Pat McArdle suggests that, in an attempt to improve Ireland’s credit rating “we could try to give greater certainty regarding the Anglo bailout cost, possibly by postponing all other transfers to Nama until Anglo is taken care of.” Other calls this week came from the domestic politics (FG’s Finance spokesman, Michael Noonan calling for a debate at balance sheet level to assess the different options for Anglo) and the Financial Times editorial which today says “it is time to staunch the bleeding. As Irish state guarantees near their expiry date, some banks will not be able to refinance their balances. The government should prepare insolvent banks for forced debt-for-equity swaps, which would instantly recapitalise the banks in question and cap the government’s exposure”. This blog has expressed concerns about the non-NAMA losses at Anglo and whether these are being realistically assessed at present.
Last weekend NAMA paid Anglo a LEV premium of €270m on its latest tranche of loans, a considerable gifted sum in normal times but small in comparison with the expected €1bn of LEV premiums on the remainder of Anglo’s NAMA loan book. Has the tipping point now come whereby Anglo’s future is consensually decided (consensus impedes speed of action but the sums involved have grown to state of war proportions for the Irish state)? And until Anglo’s costs are clarified, should NAMA put the transfer of future loans on hold as these future transfers will involve the State paying substantial sums in excess of the true value of the loans.

Comment:

We did not have to wait for the past 18 months to expire to suddenly find out that NAMA was going to end up paying way over the odds for the various toxic assets from the Banks, never mind the Crap it was getting from ANGLO IRISH BANK
The simple fact is that from the start we the ordinary Joe soaps could smell that a sweetheart deal has been done by the Fianna Fail Government with the establishment of what is now openly been acknowledged as the largest bail out in Irish corporate history and all for the benefit for the golden circle, the chosen few, the cronies and leaches and hangers-on of the Fianna Fail party

This is now seen as a fraudulent transfer of wealth from the citizens of Ireland to a group of irresponsible gamblers, with the help of economic traitors within the government and a totally incompetent regulatory authority that at this stage one must ask if it was designed to be so, in order to facilitate this fraud in the first place !

It is the duty of every citizen to make sure that the next tranche 3 of toxic loans from Anglo-Irish Bank should not take place and indeed an independent international enquire should be set up to investigate exactly who were the beneficiaries of the billions that have already gone into this toxic Toilet, who was responsible for the approval ludicrous high valuations put on these worthless toxic assets and whether there was a conflict of interest at any level
The Fraudulent actions of Government ministers to be exposed and all individuals brought before the courts and jailed on convictions, no golden handshakes or beefed up pensions to be paid out to any individuals found to have felicitated in the cover-up of fraudulent actions or helped to hide relevant information that would have expose this monstrous fraud on the Irish taxpayers
This continued drip ,drip feed of lies must be stopped and the truth must be put before the people
In the form of a general election or a referendum on the issue
I call on all the opposition parties to declare that they will not honour any of the fraudulent guarantees given to the international bondholders by way of an extended government guarantee given in the first place without the consent of the Irish people
I dispute the authority of any government to place me and the hundreds of thousands of its citizens into a kind of financial enslavement to corrupt financial institutions that then are enabled to legally rob me of my family home, my savings, and my prosperity as a consequence of their corrupt practices.
As a result of the establishment of NAMA the countries financial institutions have effectively sucked dry the financial resources of the country for the next generation.
Thus robbing me and the majority of the countries citizens the necessary means to independently provide for their family’s and so forcing families to become dependent on the state for handouts
These actions are a clear breach of the rights guaranteed to every citizen of Ireland by the Irish constitution (see PDF Here Constitution of Ireland) and so renders the establishment of NAMA illegal without first haven put it to a referendum to the citizens of Ireland
Please stand up for our constitutional rights , get active and  put an end to this  madness

New reserve currency

This is big trouble for the USA
WASHINGTON (AP) — Regulators on Friday shut down a Nevada bank, raising to 83 the number of U.S. bank failures this year.
The 83 closures so far this year is more than double the pace set in all of 2009, which was itself a brisk year for shutdowns. By this time last year, regulators had closed 40 banks. The pace has accelerated as banks’ losses mount on loans made for commercial property and development.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over Nevada Security Bank, based in Reno, with $480.3 million in assets and $479.8 million in deposits. Umpqua Bank, based in Roseburg, Ore., agreed to assume the assets and deposits of the failed bank.
New reserve currency
We in Ireland are still bailing out bankrupt banks at the cost billions we don’t have causing economic depression for this and the next generation!
With 52 thousand students coming out of our universities and no jobs to go to
alone along with 100,000 people all ready left the country ,and another 53 thousand students leaving secondary education this year
How many of them are going into apprenticeships, jobs or is it emigration for the majority for them
The Unelected Cowen and his band of economic terrorists are helping the top bankers of the state live it up while the rest of us struggle to pay our monthly bills
I say let the bankrupt banks pay their own bills and allow them to fail, just like the Americans are doing in the land of Free markets
Allowing the crooks in the Dail to plunder our natural resources and the wealth of future generations is a crime I personally do not want to be responsible for, when our children ask what you did to prevent it I can show I was active in my opposition and I made a stand
What can you say you did??
It is the responsibility of each and every one of us to oppose this band of thieves we must stand up and take action
Do not just stand by and allow our country to be destroyed by the current government who have sold out to the faceless bondholders in Germany , France and England
Stand up and Fight back now!
Put yourself up for election do not give you vote to any of the current TD’s
We need new blood in the Dail and not Family dynasties
We want a general election now and we need a new community party made up of new local people from ordinary backgrounds that will work for an average wage and not clock up huge self given perks, ending up as millionaires while the rest of us struggle to pay for these perks & pensions
We need real servants of the people and not leach’s sucking the rest of us dry like some of the current shower of TD’s are doing
The next general election must end Gombeenisem for good.
Promise yourself this and we just might save Ireland!

David Mc Williams in his latest posting Memo to ECB: print money

David Mc Williams in his latest posting Memo to ECB: print money

Highlights the conundrum the Germans now find themselves in!


As the paymasters of Europe, they are not happy in this unforeseen roll and the opposition in Germany is growing as we see with the loss of North Rhine-Westphalia see article here

In last week’s elections in Germany, by the ruling party of Angela Merkel.

Where this leaves the Euro is another question, I think too much has been invested in the Euro enterprise, so much so that I don’t expect to see the Germans just ditch it anytime soon!

The latest support package for the beleaguered Euro is testimony to the fight the Germanys are still prepared to put up, to save their investment in the single currency.

But what have the Europeans really agreed to?

From here it looks like a giant NAMA solution! Yes we have arrived at the unthinkable, a NAMA for Europe .this of course is just as bad if not even worse that our own Irish NAMA ,but with much worse consequences. All over the air waves to-day we hear that the Euro has been saved and the markets initial reaction is positive but the markets are prone to swing at a moment’s notice and I would not put faith in any initial reaction.

Where are all these billions going to come from and what is the Irish government’s contribution going to be now ,from my estimates we could be asked to stump up 5,000.000.000 billion. (Under the loan package, euro-area governments pledged 440 billion euros in loans or guarantees, with 60 billion euros more in loans from the EU’s budget and as much as 250 billion euros from the International Monetary Fund.)

Where are we going to get this kind of money? Am I the only party pooper?

Surely spending this sort of money replicates the reckless actions that got us here in the first place!

Someone somewhere is going to ask the question what are we going to have to do the get this money? Give up more sovereignty, in the form of a new Lisbon 3 referendum.

Either way this is not good news and this will dawn on the people of Europe in the coming months!

Just think if NAMA is bad for Ireland ,then Euro NAMA cannot be good for Europe !

Unless the Germans start to experience real pain, and their economy starts to go into depression ,and they then come on to the streets, I expect that things will die down and we will see perhaps new attention been brought on to the dollar again! Why? Because the Americans are much further down the road with their printing presses, and the American Jumbo Debt comes to focus on the world stage again!

The thing about debt is that it has to be faced up to at some stage !


 

 

Pirates Of The ‘Carry-On-Regardless’

Posted by jayfromeire on Mar 25th, 2010 and filed under Economic Crisis, International. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0. You can leave a response or trackback to this entry from your site


William K. Black wrote a book in 2005 titled “The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One” where he outlined the fraud and corruption at the highest levels of international banking.                   

What we are seeing now in the light of massive bonuses, involving billions of Euro, Dollars and Pounds, being handed out to executives and lower level employees, is simply the same culture of fraud and corruption which has seeped down to the lower levels of an industry which has utterly disregarded any pretence of moral conscience.       

           
 

This industry has deliberately plunged the world and the majority of ordinary people into a period of extreme doubts and anxieties over the future of themselves, their children and future generations.        

The climate of greed in this industry has undeniably never changed. Whilst the international bankers have absconded with the wealth of nations, their cronies in subsidiary banks, where ordinary people’s financial security is crucial, are now doing the same. These lower level parasites continue to coerce governments into passing legislation, in Ireland’s case, NAMA – (Never Any Money Again).                   

This is happening across the developed world and allows governments, without the consent of its citizens, to literally tax working people to pay for the illegal and corrupt practices of a criminal cabal responsible for the state of the world today.                    

This is piracy of the highest order, and the ordinary people paying for this, for generations to come, will be born into a financial bondage to the coming world state which amounts to nothing less than SLAVERY.               

We are being financially raped by the banking elite who simply demand that our government pass the very legislation which will condemn the citizens to a future of indentured servitude. We, the taxpayers, will have to cough up our last cent to the parasites of finance to furnish their lavish lifestyles of champagne parties and fancy yachts, whilst we are left struggling to make ends meet.                 

The government tells us we need to get through this current financial crisis together, by pulling together don’t you know, whilst they maintain their positions of power over us and live the highlife with their banker and building developer buddies. They don’t take responsibility for, or account to the public for, the catastrophe they’ve inflicted on families and businesses in this country. At the same time they try to justify their uselessness and inflated salaries, presumably in line with their inflated egos and ludicrous self belief in their value to society, whilst at the same time maintaining their massive expense accounts and lavish pension arrangements which nobody else in the country is entitled to.

machholz responce 

Careful what you ask for!

With the cries of change the government getting louder, I caution and ask the question will we be any better off?

Make no mistake I want to have a change of government and I want to jail All the corrupt Basta***

Responsible for the mess we are now in.

What exactly will the new government do about the political gangsters responsible for the mess we are now in?

see posting

Tell the people the truth about the Markets & NAMA

Do you really want to know what is really going on in the market place?
Ever heard of the “Rigged Market capitalists system”
Are you ready for this news??
Ernst & Young auditors of Anglo Irish Bank now working for NAMA ,
The same auditors for Lehman Brothers .
This is criminal , allowing this to go on, they should all be in Jail !
We must have a new Irish people’s political party that will stop this fraud in its tracks.
A political party that will prosecute all the individuals responsible for this criminal conspiracy
They must be brought to justice
We the people must have our pound of flesh!

overly optimistic Irish Government’s plan

By Sarah Collins in Brussels

Thursday March 18 2010

IRELAND’S plans to bring spending and borrowing under control may require deeper cuts than previously forecast, the European Commission said yesterday, as it demanded that Finance Minister Brian Lenihan take action on public sector pensions and provide more details about plans for further cuts over the next few years.

The commission said in the report that the Government’s plan to slash the budget deficit by eight percentage points over the next four years is overly optimistic and lacks detail. Ireland is currently running a budget deficit that is four times the EU’s limit but has promised to bring it below 3pc of gross domestic product by 2014.

“The budgetary outcomes could be worse than targeted in 2010 and considerably worse than targeted thereafter,” said the report.

“The authorities should stand ready to take additional measures beyond the planned consolidation packages in case growth turned out to be lower than projected in the programme.”

The biggest problem is the Government’s prediction that the economy will expand 3.3pc next year.

The commission’s forecast sees the economy growing by just 2.6pc.

The commission also says there are risks the 2010 Budget could fall victim to spending “slippages”, not least because of injections that could be called in to shore up the country’s banks.

Mr Lenihan did not set aside money to pay for any further cash injections into the country’s banks this year, despite widespread expectations that Allied Irish Banks, Bank of Ireland and Anglo Irish will all require billions of euros.

EU officials said Ireland’s adjustment process will be “rather drawn out” and that emigration and high interest rates on government debt could wear on the economy. The present plans would only stabilise government debt by 2020.

“Specific additional risks relate to the government’s bank guarantees to support the financial sector, which, if called, would lead to increases in deficit and debt,” it says.

It also told the Department of Finance to spell out how it will slash the deficit by three percentage points in 2012 and a further two points in 2013 and 2014 to bring it below the EU’s limit.

The department also needs to provide more data to explain some of its calculations, it adds. Revenue and expenditure projections are “technical” rather than being targets, it says.

“From 2011 on, taking into account the risks to the deficit targets, the budgetary strategy may not be consistent with the (EU) recommendation. In particular, the deficit targets for 2011-2014 need to be backed up by concrete measures and the plans for the entire period need to be strengthened,” the report says.

The call for the Government to strengthen the “binding nature of the medium-term budgetary framework” appears to be a demand for Ireland to make plans beyond the traditional scope of budgets here.

A government spokesman said yesterday that specific extra cuts or tax rises would be announced in relevant budgets, when it would take account of the then-prevailing economic circumstances.

The commission says the Government should introduce more public sector pension reform to improve the long-term sustainability of the public finances.

“The long-term budgetary impact of ageing is clearly higher than the EU average,” the report says.

The report adds that the Government should also consider plugging holes in the budget by widening its tax base. It says the effects of the new carbon tax will be negated by cuts in VAT rates.

“The sharp decline in revenue recorded in the context of the housing market correction and the wider recession has revealed some vulnerabilities of the Irish tax system, such as a narrow tax base and a high reliance on taxing transactions in assets,” the report says. Ireland is one of 20 member states under increased scrutiny by the EU executive for running up a deficit that exceeds the bloc’s limit.

Countries are legally bound to maintain deficits – the shortfall between revenue and spending – below 3pc of gross domestic product and keep gross debt – the amount the government borrows to finance the shortfall – below 60pc of GDP. Ireland’s deficit last year was 11.6pc of GDP, while debt rose to 64.5pc, both above EU thresholds.

In April last year Brussels gave the Government until 2013 to bring the deficit back into line but extended the deadline last December.

– Sarah Collins in Brussels

Irish Independent

Sunday Blues

 

Reading the Sunday newspapers to –day, I don t know which is more depressing

The prospect of having the opposition takes the place of the current bag of misfits in the Dail

I mean they haven’t really distinguished themselves and I am not so sure of their solutions to the whole NAMA Con job.

Their proposals are exactly what???

The Government seems to be trying to control the content of our main stream newspapers by touting the cabinets possible re- shuffle in the coming weeks and are deflecting away  from more inportant thing like NAMA

I know I should say shuffling the chairs on the titanic but you all know that is the case already don’t you!

  Anyway the good news this week was that the European Commissions latest’s utterances on the subject NAMA , looks like  it would save us from our own corrupt governments attempt to defrauded every man woman and child living in the state with is attempt to overpay bankrupt banks billions for worthless toxic assets ! 

Ah well,

 David Mc Williams article will clarify things a little better no doubt but it won’t cheer me up though!

link to David’s article http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/02/28/it-took-europe-to-rein-in-nama
 

 

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