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Irelands Golden Circle and ruling elite

Labour seeks answers to RTÉ report

taken from link http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1222/breaking48.htm

Fianna Fáil needs to answer questions regarding it relationship to Irish Nationwide Building Society after RTÉ’s Prime Time Investigates  programme last night reported a number of party figures had access to loans from the lender on “easy terms”, Labour’s finance spokeswoman has said.

Joan Burton described disclosures regarding the operation of a system of favoured relationships at the bank as “particularly disturbing”.

“The question now arises as to whether or not other figures in Fianna Fáil, including figures at senior level, were customers of this institution, and whether they operated a system of favoured relationships for particular clients,” Ms Burton said.

She called on the party to clarity the issue as up to €8 billion of Irish Nationwide loans are to be covered under National Asset Management Agency (Nama), and a reported figure of up to €2 billion has been agreed by the Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan as part of a rescue package.

“These two institutions were at the core of the international loss of Irish reputation and were at the core of the banking crisis,” Ms Burton said.

“In many ways the guarantee scheme, which Labour opposed, was structured around these two with their close links to Fianna fail and to Government,” she said.

Opposition parties have repeatedly called for an inquiry into the circumstances that led to the banking crisis.

“If this phase of economic destruction is to be fully understood and the lessons truly learned so that we never repeat them a full investigation of the banking sector and its practises over this period needs to happen as a matter of urgency,” Fine Gael frontbench spokesman Leo Varadkar said today.

Mr Varadkar said: “A 21st century Golden Circle, as exposed last night on Primetime Investigates, has corrupted our banking system and destroyed our economy.

“The drivers of this phase of economic destruction were, again, a cheerleading Fianna Fáil Government and greedy speculators and banks,” he added.

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Just another example of the golden Circle’s influence and again (if we needed it) proof of political corruption in this country

We the people must take action, ringing up the various radio stations talk shows just won’t cut it for me any more!

How long will it take for the rest of Ireland to wake up and revolt against this corrupt system? That robs from the poor and gives to the chosen few

We have put up with these leaches for long enough,

“Open revolt”

It is the only way the ordinary people will be able to bring all these criminals to justice!

The pot calling the kettle black


Taoiseach Brian Cowen has said the Catholic Church hierarchy has the responsibility of restoring trust in the administration of the institution.

What about his own responsibility of restoring trust in the Financial Institutions of this country?

The phrase The pot calling the kettle black
comes to mind!

Suport  the Central Bank Governor’s call for a full investigation into the total destruction of the Irish Banking system.

Calling All TD’s

To all TD’s

Everybody I speak to is disgusted with the response of the government

To the Central Bank Governor’s call for a full investigation into the destruction of the Irish Banking system

You were elected to serve all of the people, not just a select few!

Having lost our jobs, our pensions, our Homes, and our belief in the political system

We now want to see this full investigation and not some toothless expensive tribunal

There must be prosecutions forthcoming

The biggest calamity that befallen the Irish state cannot go unaccounted for

People want answers and they want them now!

Do your Job and support the Central Bank’s Governors call, Support the people!

Obama’s War in Pakistan

Obama Declares War On Pakistan

By Webster G. Tarpley


This article was sent to me


WASHINGTON, DC — Obama’s West Point speech of December 1 represents far more than the obvious brutal escalation in Afghanistan — it is nothing less than a declaration of all-out war by the United States against Pakistan . This is a brand-new war, a much wider war now targeting Pakistan , a country of 160 million people armed with nuclear weapons. In the process, Afghanistan is scheduled to be broken up. This is no longer the Bush Cheney Afghan war we have known in the past. This is something immensely bigger: the attempt to destroy the Pakistani central government in Islamabad and to sink that country into a chaos of civil war, Balkanization, subdivision and general mayhem. The chosen strategy is to massively export the Afghan civil war into Pakistan and beyond, fracturing Pakistan along ethnic lines. It is an oblique war using fourth-generation or guerrilla warfare techniques to assail a country which the United States and its associates in aggression are far too weak to attack directly. In this war, the Taliban are employed as US proxies. This aggression against Pakistan is Obama’s attempt to wage the Great Game against the hub of Central Asia and Eurasia or more generally.




The ongoing civil war in Afghanistan is merely a pretext, a cover story designed to provide the United States with a springboard for a geopolitical destabilization campaign in the entire region which cannot be publicly avowed. In the blunt cynical world of imperialist aggression à la Bush and Cheney, a pretext might have been manufactured to attack Pakistan directly. But Pakistan is far too large and the United States is far too weak and too bankrupt for such an undertaking. In addition, Pakistan is a nuclear power, possessing atomic bombs and medium range missiles needed to deliver them. What we are seeing is a novel case of nuclear deterrence in action. The US cannot send an invasion fleet or set up airbases nearby because Pakistani nuclear weapons might destroy them. To this extent, the efforts of Ali Bhutto and A.Q. Khan to provide Pakistan a deterrent capability have been vindicated. But the US answer is to find ways to attack Pakistan below the nuclear threshold, and even below the conventional threshold. This is where the tactic of exporting the Afghan civil war to Pakistan comes in.


The architect of the new Pakistani civil war is US Special Forces General Stanley McChrystal, who organized the infamous network of US torture chambers in Iraq . McChrystal’s specific credential for the Pakistani civil war is his role in unleashing the Iraqi civil war of Sunnis versus Shiites by creating “al Qaeda in Iraq ” under the infamous and now departed double agent Zarkawi. If Iraqi society as a whole had lined up against the US invaders, the occupiers would have soon been driven out. The counter-gang known as “Al Qaeda in Iraq ” avoided that possibility by killing Shiites, and thus calling forth massive retaliation in the form of a civil war. These tactics are drawn from the work of British General Frank Kitson, who wrote about them in his book Low Intensity Warfare. If the United States possesses a modern analog to Heinrich Himmler of the SS, it is surely General McChrystal, Obama’s hand-picked choice. McChrystal’s superior, Gen Petraeus, wants to be the new Field Marshal von Hindenburg ­ in other words, he wants to be the next US president.


The vulnerability of Pakistan which the US and its NATO associates are seeking to exploit can best be understood using a map of the prevalent ethnic groups of Afghanistan , Pakistan , Iran , and India . Most maps show only political borders which date back to the time of British imperialism, and therefore fail to reflect the principal ethnic groups of the region. For the purposes of this analysis, we must start by recognizing a number of groups. First is the Pashtun people, located mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan . Then we have the Baluchis, located primarily in Pakistan and Iran . The Punjabis inhabit Pakistan , as do the Sindhis. The Bhutto family came from Sind .




The US and NATO strategy begins with the Pashtuns, the ethnic group from which the so-called Taliban are largely drawn. The Pashtuns represent a substantial portion of the population of Afghanistan , but here they are alienated from the central government under President Karzai in Kabul , even though the US puppet Karzai passes for a Pashtun himself. The issue involves the Afghan National Army, which was created by the United States after the 2001 invasion. The Afghan officer corps are largely Tajiks drawn from the Northern Alliance that allied with the United States against the Pashtun Talibans. The Tajiks speak Dari, sometimes known as eastern Persian. Other Afghan officers come from the Hazara people. The important thing is that the Pashtuns feel shut out.


The US strategy can best be understood as a deliberate effort at persecuting, harassing, antagonizing, strafing, repressing, and murdering the Pashtuns. The additional 40,000 US and NATO forces which Obama demands for Afghanistan will concentrate in Helmand province and other areas where the Pashtuns are in the majority. The net effect will be to increase the rebellion of the fiercely independent Pashtuns against Kabul and the foreign occupation, and at the same time to push many of these newly radicalized mujaheddin fighters across the border into Pakistan , where they can wage war against the central government in Islamabad . US aid will flow directly to war lords and drug lords, increasing the centrifugal tendencies.


On the Pakistani side, the Pashtuns are also alienated from the central government. Islamabad and the army are seen by them as too much the creatures of the Punjabis, with some input from the Sindhis. On the Pakistani side of the Pashtun territory, US operations include wholesale assassinations from unmanned aerial vehicles or drones, murders by CIA and reportedly Blackwater snipers, plus blind terrorist massacres like the recent ones in Peshawar which the Pakistani Taliban are blaming on Blackwater, acting as a subcontractor of the CIA. These actions are intolerable and humiliating for a proud sovereign state. Every time the Pashtuns are clobbered, they blame the Punjabis in Islamabad for the dirty deals with the US that allow this to happen. The most immediate goal of Obama’s Afghan-Pakistan escalation is therefore to promote a general secessionist uprising of the entire Pashtun people under Taliban auspices, which would already have the effect of destroying the national unity of both Kabul and Islamabad .




The other ethnic group which the Obama strategy seeks to goad into insurrection and secession is the Baluchis. The Baluchis have their own grievances against the Iranian central government in Tehran , which they see as being dominated by Persians. An integral part of the new Obama policy is to expand the deadly flights of the CIA Predators and other assassination drones into Baluchistan . One pretext for this is the report, peddled for example by Michael Ware of CNN, that Osama bin Laden and his MI-6 sidekick Zawahiri are both holed up in the Baluchi city of Quetta, where they operate as the kingpins of the so-called “Quetta Shura.” Blackwater teams cannot be far behind. In Iranian Baluchistan, the CIA is funding the murderous Jundullah organization, which was recently denounced by Teheran for the murder of a number of top officials of the Iranian Pasdaran Revolutionary guards. The rebellion of Baluchistan would smash the national unity of both Pakistan and Iran , thus helping to destroy two of the leading targets of US policy.




Even Chris Matthews of MSNBC, normally a devoted acolyte of Obama, pointed out that the US strategy as announced at West Point very much resembles a Rube Goldberg contraption. (In the real world, “al Qaeda” is of course the CIA’s own Arab and terrorist legion.) In the world of official US myth, the enemy is supposed to be “Al Qaeda.” But, even according to the US government, there are precious few “Al Qaeda” fighters left in Afghanistan . Why then, asked Matthews, concentrate US forces in Afghanistan where “Al Qaeda” is not, rather than in Pakistan where “Al Qaeda” is now alleged to be?


One elected official who has criticized this incongruous mismatch is Democratic Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, who said in a television interview that ‘Pakistan, in the border region near Afghanistan, is perhaps the epicenter [of global terrorism], although al Qaida is operating all over the world, in Yemen, in Somalia, in northern Africa, affiliates in Southeast Asia. Why would we build up 100,000 or more troops in parts of Afghanistan included that are not even near the border? You know, this buildup is in Helmand Province . That’s not next door to Waziristan . So I’m wondering, what exactly is this strategy, given the fact that we have seen that there is a minimal presence of Al Qaida in Afghanistan, but a significant presence in Pakistan? It just defies common sense that a huge boots on the ground presence in a place where these people are not is the right strategy. It doesn’t make any sense to me.’ Indeed. ‘The Wisconsin Democrat also warned that U.S. policy in Afghanistan could actually push terrorists and extremists into Pakistan and, as a consequence, further destabilize the region: “You know, I asked the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mullen, and Mr. Holbrooke, our envoy over there, a while ago, you know, is there a risk that if we build up troops in Afghanistan, that will push more extremists into Pakistan?” he told ABC. “They couldn’t deny it, and this week, Prime Minister Gilani of Pakistan specifically said that his concern about the buildup is that it will drive more extremists into Pakistan, so I think it’s just the opposite, that this boots-on-the-ground approach alienates the Afghan population and specifically encourages the Taliban to further coalesce with Al Qaida, which is the complete opposite of our national security interest.”‘[1] Of course, this is all intentional and motivated by US imperialist raison d’état. .




Obama’s speech did everything possible to blur the distinction between Afghanistan and Pakistan , which are after all two sovereign states and both members of the United Nations in their own right. Ibrahim Sajid Malick, US correspondent for Samaa TV, one of the largest Pakistan television networks, called attention to this ploy: ‘Speaking to a hall full of cadets at the US Military Academy of West Point, President Barack Obama almost seemed like he might be declaring war on Pakistan . Every time he mentioned Afghanistan , Pakistan preceded mention. Sitting at the back benches of the hall at one point I almost jumped out of my chair when he said: “the stakes are even higher within a nuclear-armed Pakistan , because we know that al Qaeda and other extremists seek nuclear weapons, and we have every reason to believe that they would use them.” I was shocked because a succession of American officials recently confirmed that the Pakistani arsenal is secure.'[2] This article is entitled “Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?”, and we can chalk the question mark up to diplomatic discretion. During congressional hearings involving General McChrystal and US Ambassador Eikenberry, Afghanistan and Pakistan were simply fused into one sinister entity known as “Afpak” or even “Afpakia.”


In the summer of 2007, Obama, coached by Zbigniew Brzezinski and other controllers, was the originator of the unilateral US policy of using Predator drones for political assassinations inside Pakistan . This assassination policy is now being massively escalated along with the troop strength: “Two weeks ago in Pakistan, Central Intelligence Agency sharpshooters killed eight people suspected of being militants of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and wounded two others in a compound that was said to be used for terrorist training. The White House has authorized an expansion of the C.I.A.’s drone program in Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas, officials said this week, to parallel the president’s decisionto send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. American officials are talking with Pakistan about the possibility of striking in Baluchistan for the first time – a controversial move since it is outside the tribal areas – because that is where Afghan Taliban leaders are believed to hide.”[3] The US is now training more Predator operators than combat pilots.




The CIA, the Pentagon, and their various contractors among the private military firms are now on a murder spree across Pakistan , attacking peaceful villages and wedding parties, among other targets. Blackwater, now calling itself Xe Services and Total Intelligence Solutions, is heavily involved: ‘At a covert forward operating base run by the US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, members of an elite division of Blackwater are at the center of a secret program in which they plan targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, “snatch and grabs” of high-value targets and other sensitive action inside and outside Pakistan, an investigation by The Nation has found. The Blackwater operatives also assist in gathering intelligence and help direct a secret US military drone bombing campaign that runs parallel to the well-documented CIA predator strikes, according to a well-placed source within the US military intelligence apparatus.’ [4]


As shocking as Scahill’s report is, it must nevertheless be viewed as a limited hangout, since there is no mention of the persistent charges that a large part of the deadly bombings in Peshawar and other Pakistani cities are being carried out by Blackwater, as this news item suggests: “ISLAMABAD Oct. 29 (Xinhua) — Chief of Taliban movement in Pakistan Hakimullah Mehsud has blamed the controversial American private firm Blackwater for the bomb blast in Peshawar which killed 108 people, local news agency NNI reported Thursday.”[5] This was blind terrorism designed for maximum slaughter, especially among women and children.




Scahill’s report also suggests that US black ops have reached into Uzbekistan, a post-Soviet country of 25 million which borders Afghanistan to the north: ‘In addition to planning drone strikes and operations against suspected Al Qaeda and Taliban forces in Pakistan for both JSOC and the CIA, the Blackwater team in Karachi also helps plan missions for JSOC inside Uzbekistan against the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, according to the military intelligence source. Blackwater does not actually carry out the operations, he said, which are executed on the ground by JSOC forces. “That piqued my curiosity and really worries me because I don’t know if you noticed but I was never told we are at war with Uzbekistan ,” he said. “So, did I miss something, did Rumsfeld come back into power?”‘ [6] Such are the ways of hope and change.


The role of US intelligence in fomenting the Baluchistan rebellion for the purpose of breaking Pakistan apart is also confirmed by Professor Chossudovsky: ‘Already in 2005, a report by the US National Intelligence Council and the CIA forecast a “Yugoslav-like fate” for Pakistan “in a decade with the country riven by civil war, bloodshed and inter-provincial rivalries, as seen recently in Baluchistan.” (Energy Compass, 2 March 2005 ). According to the NIC-CIA, Pakistan is slated to become a “failed state” by 2015, “as it would be affected by civil war, complete Talibanization and struggle for control of its nuclear weapons”. (Quoted by former Pakistan High Commissioner to UK , Wajid Shamsul Hasan, Times of India, 13 February 2005 ). Washington favors the creation of a “Greater Baluchistan” which would integrate the Baluch areas of Pakistan with those of Iran and possibly the Southern tip of Afghanistan, thereby leading to a process of political fracturing in both Iran and Pakistan.'[7] The Iranians, for their part, are adamant that the US is committing acts of war on their territory in Baluchistan : ” TEHRAN , Oct. 29 (Xinhua) — Iran ‘s Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani said that there are some concrete evidences showing U.S. involvement in recent deadly bomb explosions in the country’s Sistan-Baluchistan province, the official IRNA news agency reported. . The deadly suicide attack by Sunni rebel group Jundallah (God’s soldiers) occurred on Oct. 18 in Iran ‘s Sistan-Baluchistan province near the border with Pakistan when the local officials were preparing a ceremony in which the local tribal leaders were to meet the military commanders of Iran ‘s Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).[8]




Why would the United States be so obsessed with the breakup of Pakistan ? One reason is that Pakistan is traditionally a strategic ally and economic partner of China , a country which the US and British are determined to oppose and contain on the world stage. Specifically, Pakistan could function as an energy corridor linking the oil fields of Iran and possibly even Iraq with the Chinese market by means of a pipeline that would cross the Himalayas above Kashmir . This is the so-called “Pipelinestan” issue. This would give China a guaranteed land-based oil supply not subject to Anglo-American naval superiority, while also cutting out the 12,000 mile tanker route around the southern rim of Asia . As a recent news report points out: ‘ Beijing has been pressuring Tehran for China ‘s participation in the pipeline project and Islamabad , while willing to sign a bilateral agreement with Iran , has also welcomed China ‘s participation. According to an estimate, such a pipeline would result in Pakistan getting $200 million to $500 million annually in transit fees alone. China and Pakistan are already working on a proposal for laying a trans-Himalayan pipeline to carry Middle Eastern crude oil to western China . Pakistan provides China the shortest possible route to import oil from the Gulf countries. The pipeline, which would run from the southern Pakistan port of Gwadar and follow the Karakoram highway, would be partly financed by Beijing . The Chinese are also building a refinery at Gwadar. Imports using the pipeline would allow Beijing to reduce the portion of its oil shipped through the narrow and unsafe Strait of Malacca , which at present carries up to 80% of its oil imports. Islamabad also plans to extend a railway track to China to connect it to Gwadar. The port is also considered the likely terminus of proposed multibillion-dollar gas pipelines reaching from the South Pars fields in Iran or from Qatar , and from the Daulatabad fields in Turkmenistan for export to world markets. Syed Fazl-e-Haider, ” Pakistan , Iran sign gas pipeline deal,” Asia Times, 27 May 2009 .[9] This is the normal, peaceful economic progress and cooperation which the Anglo-Americans are hell-bent on stopping.


Oil and natural gas pipelines from Iran across Pakistan and into China would carry energy resources into the Middle Kingdom, and would also serve as conveyor belts for Chinese economic influence into the Middle East . This would make Anglo-American dominion increasingly tenuous in a part of the world which London and Washington have traditionally sought to control as part of their overall strategy of world domination.


US domestic propaganda is already portraying Pakistan as the new home base of terrorism. The four pathetic patsies going on trial for an alleged plot to bomb a synagogue in the Riverdale neighborhood of the Bronx in New York City had been carefully sheep-dipped to associate them with the shadowy and suspicious Jaish-e-Mohammad, allegedly a Pakistani terrorist group. The same goes for the five Moslems from Northern Virginia who have just been arrested near Lahore in Pakistan.




As far as the neighboring states are concerned, India under the unfortunate Manmohan Singh seems to be accepting the role of continental dagger against Pakistan and China on behalf of the US and the British. This is a recipe for a colossal tragedy. India should rather make permanent peace with Pakistan by vacating the Vale of Kashmir, where 95% of the population is Moslem and would like to join Pakistan. Without a solution to this issue, there will be no peace on the subcontinent.


Regarding Iran, George Friedman, the head of the Stratfor outlet of the US intelligence community recently told Russia Today that the great novelty of the next decade will be an alliance of the United States with Iran directed against Russia. In that scenario, Iran would cut off oil to China altogether. That is the essence of the Brzezinski strategy. It is urgent that the antiwar movement in the United States regroup and begin a new mobilization against the cynical hypocrisy of Obama’s war and escalation policy, which suprasses even the war crimes of the Bush-Cheny neocons. In this new phase of the Great Game, the stakes are incalculable.



[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/06/feingold-why-surge-where_n_381729.html

[2] Ibrahim Sajid Malick, “Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?,” Pakistan for Pakistanis Blog, 2 December 2009. http://ibrahimsajidmalick.com/did-Obama-declare-war-on-pakistan/484/

[3] Scott Shane, “C.I.A. to Expand Use of Drones in Pakistan,” New York Times, December 3, 2009. See also David E. Sanger and Eric Schmitt, “Between the Lines, an Expansion in Pakistan,” New York Times, 1 December 2009.

[4] Jeremy Scahill, “The Secret US War in Pakistan,” The Nation, November 23, 2009

[5] “Taliban in Pakistan blame U.S. Blackwater for deadly blast,” Xinhua News Agency, 29 October 2009, http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/29/content_12358907

message to all our TD’s

A Christmas message to all our TD’s


Now this is the Law of the Jungle — as old and as true as the sky;

And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die.

As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back —

For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

The Law of the Jungle

Rudyard Kipling

Mike Hoy (A Wake –up Call )

A Wake-Up Call

by Mike Hoy | December 21, 2009

I came across this article to-day

Most of you don’t realize that we have no choice in the way we think.  We never wanted to be labeled as un-American and negative.  We never wanted to get family upset at holiday gatherings.  Believe it or not we really do love you people and when family gatherings turned into nightmares we are the ones who suffer the most.  

We realize that the real arguments happen as a result of blind loyalty and stubbornness on your part to believe what you are being led to believe by those you trust.  What you fail to realize is the fact that your blind loyalties are terribly misplaced.  We would truly love to believe the way you do but unfortunately we have taken the time and made the effort to not give our loyalties blindly.  We have spent hours upon hours doing research in search of the truth.  This research continually feeds upon itself because the more research we carry out the more we realized the depth of our country’s and the world’s problems.  We know for fact that things are absolutely not the way we have been led to believe.

Remember when you got your teeth kicked in as the tech stock bubble burst?  Do you remember how you were so sure that things were different this time and that people like Warren Buffett, during the tech bubble, were labeled as “has beens?”   Do you remember how you bought into the game of “old economy” versus the “new economy?” 

The reality of that period of investing came down to the fact that there was absolutely no justification to support the lofty “.com” market caps.  As a result, analysts created a totally separate category called “new economy” in a successful bid to move these exorbitant market caps even higher.  It was a fantastic game until the end came.  When that happened they recreated another category called “bagholder!”

Even today I am beginning to hear the words “new economy” again.  What do you think this should be telling you about traditional stock and bond market investments?  Do you think they could be approaching the overvalued levels again?  Of course you can always invest using the “greater fool theory.”  This just means that there may be a bigger fool, than you, to buy your stock from you at higher prices.

How do all you ex-owners of Kmart and Enron stock feel seeing how you received nothing for your bankrupt company while those who wound up with your assets are reaping the rewards of your failed investments?  Do you really want to be involved in a market that runs over you like this?

How do all you investors feel when Elliott Spitzer finds wrong doing in corporations and then settles with the criminals, collects a ton of money for “his” cause and you receive nothing.  Then to add insult to injury, he allows the guilty parties to walk away absolutely free without admitting or denying any guilt.  What an insult; Spitzer gets his and the guilty parties settle for a paltry fine, which you shareholders pay for, and no one is held accountable, except Martha Stewart, and I have yet to figure out what she did wrong.

Enron collapsed as a result of derivatives and offshore corporations.  Our elected officials swore they would get to the bottom of that mess and make changes that could keep it from ever occurring again.  So what happened?  How come the politicians and Spitzer have not forced other corporations to unwind their financially destructive derivative positions and close their offshore corporations?  Did you ever wonder why they buried Anderson as quickly as they did?  Since Anderson was the accounting firm that was largely responsible for setting up the fraudulent offshore enterprises; do you think it might have been to cover up the paper trail to all the other illegal offshore corporations?

Full article continues at following link http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/hoy/2009/1221.html

Banks are making us pay

By Kevin Doyle

Monday December 21 2009 (link to full article)

Banks are taxing customers with higher mortgage rates in order to get themselves out of the red, says a watchdog.

A report to be published by the Consumer Consultative Panel of the Financial Regulator suggests that banks aren’t being as consumer friendly as they would like us to believe.

Despite the massive investment from taxpayers to stabilize the industry, the panel believes that overall lending is low, while some institutions have attempted to widen their margins on mortgage products.

Customers who took out mortgages at the height of the boom are worst off.

Reply to article

As a customer of Irish permanent I know all too well what this is like as we are already paying  50 bases points over the normal rate and the Government has done nothing about this obvious rip-off

This should come as  no surprise ,as the same people are still running this crooked bank that tried to mask the true financial status of Anglo Irish Bank by helping them inflate their end of year results !

The Government has no intention in bringing these crooks to justice !

They will allow them to squeeze as much out of their hapless customers as possible

We can only rely on our own actions to get justice now

CAB Join up to-day !

Citizens Association of the Bewildered

As stated before I remain convinced that we must put pressure on the powers that be

Again to-day Brian Cowen fob off the Idea of an investigation into the Banking meltdown that he and Brian Lenihian help to cause

He also poured water on the notion to revisit the previous financial regulators negligence

We can make all the comments we like and David McWilliams will eventually move on to the next topic

I believe that it has its uses, like b ringing likeminded individuals together to discuss the grave matters facing the Irish Nation.

But I am not satisfied anymore just talking about things I want to do something and I want to fight back I want to bring the fear I have every day, to the very people that have caused this incredible damage to our country

These people have blood on their hands, just look at the suicide’s statistics

There comes a time when you just have to stand up and take action !

Who will join me?

To all Irish patriots out there join


(Citizens Association of the Bewildered)

This new association is dedicated to taking the fight into the streets of Ireland to take back our country from the incompetent political leaches that have destroyed our independence, handed us over to unscrupulous bankers and their masters the foreign bond holders

This club is for people willing to fight using all available means to take back our country from the corrupt politicians in Lenster House who have sold out their own people to enrich themselves

You can get in touch with me  at  bewilderedcitizens@gmail.com

Only if you are willing to fight for what you believe in.

Any help is appreciated but do something!

crying in the wilderness

Dr Diarmuid Martin
“I am the voice crying in the wilderness ”

The four Bishops below are the last champions of a corrupt Irish catholic church

This rot must be cut out before the people can begin to forgive and regenerate a new and worthy successor to the Christ’s Church of the Island of saints and scholars

Dr Martin Drennan looked the other way! Modern Pharisees

Resign Now!

Raymond Field looked the other way! Modern Pharisees

Resign Now!

Eamonn Walsh,
looked the other way! Modern Pharisees

Resign Now!

Looked the other way! Modern Pharisees

Jim Moriarty
Resign Now!

Response to Alan Ruddock’s article

NAMA   is just plain fraud,

The greatest financial fraud that has ever happened in this state was not brought about by some un-known bank robbers; even the outrage that happened when Garda McCabe was murdered in Limerick does not come close to the outrage that is NAMA

What hope is there for law and order when the biggest bank robbers in the state are in fact the Directors of the Banks themselves and the Government?

In my view any bank robber in this state, can now go to court and claim that he or she was following the example of the bank directors, the Finance Minster and the Government

The Green Party’s total mindboggling betrayal of their principles and of the majority of their voters has destroyed them forever

Gormely and his sidekick must know that it was the “votes” of non green party member’s that got them into the Dail and not just their 400 odd members

I believe it is time now for a new Green party, an alternative green party to oppose the power addicted, FF stooges currently nourishing this corrupt government.

We need to perhaps have a complete rethink of the political system that has the power to so utterly and convincibly  corrupt

I have in the past called for and still demand that the Banks be Nationalized

All directors to be charged with neglect and fraud

All their assets frozen

A full investigation into the conduct of the financial regulators office and charges brought forward on the grounds of dereliction of duties

All pension payments to be stopped to him and any others involved in his or other civil services offices

A full repayment of his Golden handshake

A full investigation on who authorized the fraudulent financial transactions that were designed to mask the true financial position of Anglo Irish Bank

All directors of the financial institutions involved to be brought up on criminal charges of attempting to defraud the ordinary shareholders and their own institutions

All such directors must be barred from holding any future directorships in any financial institutions

All their assets to be frozen, and upon convictions must face a minimum jail sentence of 20 years (Full Time Served)

Brian Lenihan and Brian Cowen to be investigated on their involvement in the destruction of Irish sovereignty, loss of financial independence, attempting to defraud the state by setting up the largest bank robbery in history (NAMA)

These men to stand trial on charges of treason.

The previous Directors of Anglo Irish Bank to be investigated on possible charges of fraud

All pensions and assets to be seized until outcome of investigation

A complete disclosure of the names of the Anglo Irish golden circle members

All transaction carried out with them to be investigated and results to be published

Only after this kind of accountability can the Irish public move forward into a future where the people in places of trust and power will be held accountable for their actions

And a new begining can take place and we can demonstrate to the world that

we are the masters of our own destiny!

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